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Idea Chemist Tweak

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Recovs, Oct 27, 2020.

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Would you like for this to be tested?

  1. Yes

    9 vote(s)
    69.2%
  2. No

    4 vote(s)
    30.8%
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  1. Recovs

    Recovs Unknown Member

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    So I've decided to make my own intake on how chemist should be tweaked, from my personal experience on playing the class and fighting against one.

    Armor/Sword: no change

    Potion Changes:

    Health: no more mana usage, pots instantly break after throwing one

    What I mean by this is that after you right click to pot, it should be coded to instantly break onto you while giving you the full health one pot should give out. I prefer this over drinkables because this method still gives off the chance of the enemy to also get some of the health from the pot as well, instead of not getting anything when they're close enough to the chemist. Also, if health pots were drinkables, then healing your teammates wouldn't exist either and I don't think that's a good change.

    Also with this change, you won't have to look down to pot since it'll instant break onto you.

    Damage: reduce amount of pots to 6-7. Slight increase in mana usage to consume exactly half of your mana.

    This just means you can only throw 2 before running out, originally 3.

    Poison: reduce amount of pots to 6-7.

    Regen, Strength/Speed, Fire Res, Leaping: no more mana usage.

    Never understood why these needed mana to begin with.

    Conclusion:
    I believe this is the better way to buff chemist rather than increasing it's armor protection. Chemist can live very long and still tank loads of damage before dying. With this tweak, you won't have to worry about dying because your health pot didn't land fast enough or quick dropping because you weren't able to pot health due to its mana restriction. Although it might be a bit more tanky because of it, you can always reduce the max health pots to 4, but it would be better to test it out with 5 and see how it goes from there.
     
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  2. TomD53

    TomD53 Well-Known Member

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    I'd still prefer to be able to throw potions, as with this suggestion you're not as able to heal teammates by throwing potions at them (yes you could stand inside of them, but this would not work when stealing a flag for example)

    Its quite a key thing to avoid healing enemies while fighting them so I think this takes away a lot from the "skill" required to play the class.
     
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  3. oofmonein

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    Interesting idea. While this would solve some of chem's issues, I do like being able to heal my teammates with health pots. Worth a shot tho.
     
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  4. minecraftnoob999

    minecraftnoob999 Well-Known Member

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    As a regular chemist player, I would like to see this tested. However, this is a typically unusual form of "pot pvp" (Moreso since chemist is already unusual). I'd be willing to give it a go.
     
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  5. Salty_Ivan

    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    Hard disagree with the health potions, what currently makes Chemist difficult relative to classes like Heavy and Soldier is that you need to look away to heal midfight, and how much you get out of your healing depends on how well you throw it. If you make the potion instantly activate you might as well just give it steak. These changes make Chemist too... boring to play? I suppose...?
    It also removes the important aspect of using your mana effectively.
     
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  6. TomD53

    TomD53 Well-Known Member

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    Well said
     
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