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Chemist Rework/Nerf

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by _Gobs, Jul 27, 2015.

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Remove Strength or lower the extra damage?

  1. Remove

    2 vote(s)
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  2. Keep

    6 vote(s)
    40.0%

  3. Change damage

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  1. _Gobs

    _Gobs Member

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    Slot 1:
    Chemist Sword (iron sword)

    Slot 2:
    20 instant damage potions
    3 seconds cooldown

    Slot 3:
    10 poison 2 potions (duration 6 seconds)
    5 seconds cooldown

    Slot 4:
    3 Slowness potions
    Slowness (-15% speed) (duration 5 seconds)
    5 seconds cooldown

    Slot 5:
    5 Water potions (throwable) (replaces fire resistance potions)
    Extinguishes you and your team from fire in a 3 block radius around the potion.
    15 seconds cooldown.
    Description;
    Throw to extinguish you and your teammates.

    Slot 6:
    7 Instant health 2 potions
    1.5 seconds cooldown.

    Slot 7:
    4 Regeneration 3 potions (duration 16 seconds)
    Cooldown 10 seconds.

    Slot 8:
    3 (strength and) Speed potions (3 minutes duration)
    20% speed
    (130% attack damage)
    No cooldown.

    Slot 9:
    Multifunctional compass.


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    #1 _Gobs, Jul 27, 2015
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  2. pandanielxd

    pandanielxd its panda daniel

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    Really like it +1 :smile:
     
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    #2 pandanielxd, Jul 27, 2015
  3. TOM_SAYS

    TOM_SAYS Active Member

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    Sorry, but in my opinion it's not a good idea to rework chemist. We already have the xp-bar on potspam, and as I stated before, chemist should stay the dominator on closerange damage. A good nerf would be to give it weakness against archerbow, turret arrows, pure element and damagespell
     
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    #3 TOM_SAYS, Jul 27, 2015
  4. _Gobs

    _Gobs Member

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    Potspam xp-bar doesnt do ****, you can still throw 10 instant damage potions

    Chemist is already weak against archer and arrows
     
    #4 _Gobs, Jul 27, 2015
  5. Lewka

    Lewka Well-Known Member

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    just replace chemist's sword with a stone sword and It will fix already the damage problems XdDdDd
    Or just replace the strength pot with only speed I
     
    #5 Lewka, Jul 27, 2015
  6. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't work right now.
     
    #6 Daveeeeeeeee, Jul 27, 2015
  7. _Gobs

    _Gobs Member

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    What doesn't work right now?

    Vote for it in the poll
     
    #7 _Gobs, Jul 27, 2015
  8. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    The mana system.
     
    #8 Daveeeeeeeee, Jul 27, 2015
  9. _Gobs

    _Gobs Member

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    Could work too

    It works but not properly
     
    #9 _Gobs, Jul 27, 2015
  10. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    Helps a lot with potspam +1 :grinning:
     
    #10 xxMineSheepxx, Jul 27, 2015
  11. lnformative

    lnformative Well-Known Member

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    Honestly I think that all that needs to be done is take out the iron sword and put in a stone sword and then reduce instant health 3 to instant health 2.
     
    #11 lnformative, Jul 27, 2015
  12. ASAP_Quan

    ASAP_Quan Active Member

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    Love it +1
     
    #12 ASAP_Quan, Jul 27, 2015
  13. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    The cooldown are WAAY too long. Also, I don't like the water potions. It makes chemist pretty much pyro invulnerable, AKA not what we need right now. Good try, I guess. Nice concept. +0
     
    #13 Sir_Inge, Jul 27, 2015
  14. Risabu

    Risabu Active Member

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    Needs reduction to heal pots to get rid of the tankiness
     
    #14 Risabu, Jul 27, 2015
  15. Turmac

    Turmac Hardcore Games Enthusiast

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    Kinda sounding a bit like elf with the water potions. Other than cool downs being 10 years long, I think you got it!
     
    #15 Turmac, Jul 27, 2015
  16. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    I agree with the others above, some of the cool downs like on the regeneration potions are way too long to make them very useful. Also there's too many health potions which gives Chemist far too much sustainability. Other than that I really like some of the concepts involved here such as the water potions - even though they're a little like Elf it's a nice way to make Chemist more support oriented.
     
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  17. _Gobs

    _Gobs Member

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    Reduced.

    The duration is 16 seconds.

    Its the same amount of health potions chemist currently has.
     
    #17 _Gobs, Jul 27, 2015
  18. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Exactly, it's too many :stuck_out_tongue: giving Chemist this many hp potions is like giving it three times as many steaks as all the other classes and that's hardly balanced.

    The duration of the potions is fine. But it's not very useful if you can only use it once every 20 seconds. 20 seconds may not seem very long but even 4 second cooldown is a long time in CTF.
     
    #18 EmperorTrump45, Jul 27, 2015
  19. _TheSpirit_

    _TheSpirit_ Member

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    That's a very well conceived concept. Especially the cooldown I asked for in another thread seems to be very appropriate. Maybe the cooldown on the regeneration pot isn't necessary, but that's minor.
    I very much agree with that rework!
     
    #19 _TheSpirit_, Jul 27, 2015
  20. _Gobs

    _Gobs Member

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    Changed:
    Instant health 2: 10 potions reduced to 7
    Regeneration 3: 5 potions reduced to 4

    Changed cooldown to 10 seconds

    Also, what to do with strength?
    Change 130% to 110%?
     
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    #20 _Gobs, Jul 27, 2015
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