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Idea Non-Donor Server For CTF

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by FlameStriker4, Aug 6, 2015.

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Should Brawl Add Non-Donator Servers?

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  2. No

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  1. FlameStriker4

    FlameStriker4 Member

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    Do you ever have those moments when you are doing really good as a free kit, and then you get killed by a person using a premium, over powered kit? I do. I would like to get rid of those moments. I would love it if they added a non-donor server for CTF because all of the people who can't buy kits can have a fair chance. Please take my thought into consideration. Also, if you do not want to add a non-donator server, please make a way to unlock the premium kits without real life money, because it is not fair that some people have an advantage while others do not. I think that my idea will make this server less of a pay-2-win server. Thanks for your time to read this.
     
  2. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, but not all premium classes are OP. Only pyro and chemist are really hugely OP, and those will be nerfed along with soldier. Additionally, another server wouldn't be good because it would split the community. As far as implementation of an XP or credit system, I'm all for it.
     
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  3. Turmac

    Turmac Hardcore Games Enthusiast

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    People could still buy all the kits and play. There really is no other point to get premium just for ctf. You could just buy all the kits and save a lot of your money, rather than renewing vip/mvp/elite
     
  4. wintergreen3

    wintergreen3 Delta Force Leader | Staff Manager | CTF Admin

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    I personally don't think that having Non-Donor servers would be good because as @Sir_Inge said, it would split the community. =(
     
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  5. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Non-Donor servers = Friday, now you understand why I no-life Free Fridays. Also if a server like that would be added, there would be like 500 people on that server, and none in the actual CTF games. Making it useless for making a server like that, it would ruin the purpose of donating as well, and would totally throw off CTF. No offense doe.
     
  6. RaZeragon

    RaZeragon TC Co-Leader | Catgirl Enthusiast

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    To be fair, a classes OPness comes from the player that uses it. Saying that CTF is "pay to win" is a really silly assumption when soldier (a free class) is one of the best and most used capping class out there and archer (another free class) can be extremely overpowered when used correctly. Not to mention, have you tried recovering off of good medics? It's a pain in the butt. Heavy can be a complete tank when played correctly. Not to mention, 3 out of the 4 free kits have some of the highest armor in the game, and medic is pyro-proof and has infinite regen. I probably have an equal amount of deaths from free classes as I do from premium classes, both of which can be sometimes easy and sometimes hard as hell to kill. Adding a non-doner server would not be a good idea because
    1. Recoving off of a heavy medic team? Or a wallspamming soldier? Near impossible unless you are a god pvper or you outping them so much that you are basically hitting a stationary body
    2. Defense would be hell without premium classes. A soldier or medic could probably get through nearly any defense 9/10 times unless you had 10+ heavies on defense.
    3. Most of the game would be stalemates and not fun to play due to recovery being near impossible.
    4. Learn to play around the premium classes. It's not that hard, and a free class can be just as OP as a premium one can.
     
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  7. MrWaffleman

    MrWaffleman The negligence of time's end is man's downfall

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    Also building on my counter... most of the people who have bought kits are extremely good, considering they've been no-lifing CTF for years :V. They are really used to the class and know how to use it professionally.
     
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  8. FlameStriker4

    FlameStriker4 Member

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    What if you're parents are lame and wont let you spend 2.50$ :/
     
  9. ReubenS

    ReubenS Well-Known Member

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    Try getting your hands on a prepaid credit card, they're great for micro transactions
     
  10. stlast

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    Assassin: Block with your sword. All free classes have a sword.

    Chemist: Either be a pvp god or use archer to snipe from afar.

    Dwarf: If it's just dwarf(s) then archer can shoot it(them) from out of reach.

    Engineer: A skilled heavy can absorb the turret's damage while continuing to attack it. Archer can easily kill from long range. If directly attacking the engineer by melee, destroy the regenerator.

    Elf: Close in and use close range combat. Elf is extremely weak in melee fighting.

    Mage: Don't give the mage a chance to heal once you start attacking.

    Ninja: Soldiers do well against them, heavies destroy.

    Necro: It's so UP right now that just about anything can take it on ._.

    Pyro: If you aren't a medic, then just do whatever is possible to not get hit if you are set on fire.

    Fashionista: If you encounter one of these, you can't kill them ;-; it's simply too majestically powerful to die.
     
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  11. RaZeragon

    RaZeragon TC Co-Leader | Catgirl Enthusiast

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    fashionista 2 op pls nurf
     
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  12. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    It's also worth noting that some 50% of captures are soldier and some 5-10% are medic.
    Additionally, nothing scares a Mage, ninja, elf, or chemist more than a good heavy cornering them. I say a prayer that lightning spell is charged when that happens.
     
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  13. Lord_Roke

    Lord_Roke Forever the Forums Watchdog
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    The most important problem with a non-donor server is that it does not pay off.
    Every server we host costs money so we also need to gain money from every server. A non-donor server would get Brawl absolutely no money so the concept doesn't work.
     
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  14. MineBrick12

    MineBrick12 Active Member

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    As in noobs from better players?
    I guess you're kind of right, but it would still be good that way for noob day

    greedy siphoning men
     
  15. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    I say no to this. Yes premium classes are annoying, but if you play free classes more, you will learn more strategies and you will be much better. I know quite a lot of people who main free classes and doesn't consider premium classes to be annoying. Also, having just free classes in a match is very boring and there wouldn't be a counter to soldier which could be extremely annoying, making soldier too OP. This would definitely cause people to complain.
     
  16. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    This is harsh to say the least. If brawl were to set this up it would cost them money constantly. They have to make sure every server pays for itself otherwise they won't be able to sustain it in the long term. Like it or not, brawl is a business and has to breakeven, and this would go against that very notion.

    OK, I see where you're coming from and some donator classes are overpowered. That doesn't mean you can't do really well with a free class. Take @wintergreen3 and her archery skills, or maybe @VN2004 and @MissFlea for their medic abilities. The real skill in a class comes from the player using it, and a good player can make any class OP. Additionally I'd say a lot of people agree that archer and soldier are OP classes too, and so it's not like there aren't overpowered free classes (though like the classes @Sir_Inge already mentioned, these are going to be nerfed). One final thing to mention, I know it's not always fun that you can't use a donator class, but Friday freeday does exist where you are able to use all the classes, which puts everyone on equal footing.

    For the idea I'm gonna say no for all those reasons, but I do agree that some donator classes are OP and hopefully these will be fixed in due course
     
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  17. Davegdragon01

    Davegdragon01 Active Member

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    watch out this guy looks evil

    CHEMIST IS NOT OP QQ
     
  18. Deppuccino

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    Well it depends what class you're maining. If you main Heavy, then you'll get shrekt by pyro, assassin, mage and engineer. If you play Medic, then same thing except pyro and add Ninja. If you play Soldier, then only Ninja, Mage and Engineer and if you play Archer, only Ninja and Mage on an unlucky day, only Ninja on a normal day and absolutely nothing on a more-than-average to extremely lucky day.

    How dare you say the k word.
     
  19. Romaoplays

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    Sorry but the donations make the server to stay up, they cant afford it if no one helps...

    And not all the kits are OP! Just pyro and mage (my opninion)/ the free kits are also good ( archer can insta-kill and soldiers can run forever), if its rly bothering you, try getting some money ( come on 5$) and buy a kit for you :smile:
     
  20. Risabu

    Risabu Active Member

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    I see where you're coming from as a free player, as these things have often bothered me, but the issue is that CTF isn't big enough to warrant the separation. Meaning, you'll end up with 5v5s or empty servers if you do this. Also, brawl needs its revenue, and free players don't make them revenue. Those who have payed often want to play with free players due to the advantage they have over free players. That occurs in many different games.
     
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