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Idea The only good soldier nerf in existance.

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Nightowl, Oct 8, 2015.

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  1. Nightowl

    Nightowl Well-Known Member

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    EDIT: Didn't read all of it :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  4. sp00ky101

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    If you nerf things like that, I want soldier to have a half a heart less flag poison, because I'm selfish :smile:
     
  5. 5ive_Head

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    ah yeah I need to re-read I just looked at the spoiler.
     
  6. Ironic_Gentleman

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    This is awesome! It avoids making the class useless, while still preventing it from wallspamming all over the place. +1000
     
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  7. Sir_Inge

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    -1 too OP. The problem with silver is the climb-land-jump down repeat thing that happens, and landing after 40 blocks of travel is no big deal. So, IMO still OP. I get that the armor got nerfed, and I don't like that either.
     
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    When it says lands does that mean lands on the ground or lands on a block which could be a tree or something?
     
  9. Tenshirox

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    Hardly any maps have high buildings to warrant this cooldown to be useful. The fact that you get it all back by landing fixes none of the spammy abuse that a Soldier can do.
     
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  10. kriztmas

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    If we keep nerfing every class ctf will be really boring at the end...
     
  11. ACE_BLUE2

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    I like this set up, but I've never had a complaint about soldier. I don't think it needs a nerf, but if a nerf is necessary, then it should be this nerf. /gj @Nightowl
     
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  13. Sir_Inge

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    The problem with soldier is both it's ridiculous ability to climb infinite blocks (but that doesn't exist on maps, hue) and it's ability to climb, fall, climb, fall, climb, fall, essentially making it tedious if not impossible to recover.
     
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  16. Tenshirox

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    I don't know if anything happened after my minor break from CTF, few maps have structures that require climbing for more than 5 seconds.

    In a cooldown Rework it'd be balanced to allow a good Soldier to use the ability whilst prevents bad soldiers from abusing wallclimb. If Soldier had a cooldown after 3 climbs I'd agree it'd be pretty stupid and would defeat the class but that (hopefully) wouldn't be the Rework added.
     
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    How does this stop wallspam? Soldiers can still fly up walls and drop back down when it suits them, which is the reason soldier requires change in the first place. Perhaps they can't spam their sword and stay really high up on maps, but they can still jump up and down off of these high locations and make it difficult for other classes to reach them.
     
  19. GreenNature

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    Nightowl, you're a really nice guy (Feeling better now?)

    Anyways, here's the thing about your re-work. Like @Xelia_ and @Sir_Inge said it might not completely solve the wall spam because there's always these ridges where you can land on and climb again or you can always go back to ground level and let it recharge.

    But at least it nerfs the class a little bit, and at least the class has to go back down once in every while.

    In case you don't know, I'm for this idea, but it doesn't completely solve the wall spamminess, even though it's better than the current soldier.

    Finally, how long does it take to recharge? If the recharge time is long enough, it could help solve the problem a bit.
     
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