[COMPLETE] CTF v2.0: A series of Proposals

*giggles*

too short and vague imo

@Admiral_Sp00kson

 

I meant that most people (not all) who use instakill classes play more for kills, and if instakills were removed, said people would most likely look for the next easiest class to kill with. In my opinion, that's mage. That's all I meant.

 

Your proposal (Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V didn't quote, and I'm not sifting through your giant post, so rip):
-At the start of the game Soldier starts off with a full XP bar.
-Every time it uses its wall climb Soldier loses 1/5th of the XP bar.
-XP bar regenerates 1/5th of the way every 2 seconds.
-Soldier takes 50% reduced flag poison damage.
-Crouching will regenerate the XP bar twice as fast.

I haven't gotten to reading all the reworks yet, but I'd like to comment on the soldier rework. Although I don't play soldier anymore, I used to love playing it and capping way back in 2012/2013 on Mcpvp.

- I don't think having the 5 wall climbs in a full XP bar is quite enough, although that can be debated. I suggest maybe increasing it to 6 or 7, perhaps.
- I think, rather than having a wall climb (whatever the value may be, i.e 1/5 XP bar) regen every 2 seconds, make it so you regen a wall climb for every 1-2 seconds of walking/sprinting. This way, soldier is required to be on the ground, or some kind of structure, for at least some time, making it slightly less OP. However, soldiers who know how and when to use their wall climbs sparingly will still be able to survive.
- I like the crouching to regen faster idea, but, as @b0squet said, soldiers can crouch while wall climbing to regen faster in your proposal. So, adding the requirement of staying on the ground to regen wall climb would be better, just as I stated above.

In summary:
-Give soldier a little more breathing room by giving it a higher number of wall climbs per full XP bar.
-Soldier are required to be on the ground in order to regen, whether it be crouching to regen twice as fast, sprinting or walking, it must be on the ground.
Note: Wall climbs will regen slowly as a player walks/sprint/stands. They will not regen in large chunks such as 1/5 an XP bar after certain time intervals of being on the ground.

 

I don't think dwarf is spot on(in my opinion) I kind of want it to be more mobile and less OP

 

dwarf is balanced xdd

 

All of the other classes can be used for offense and defense....dwarf is the only defensively set class, that's not balanced. Dwarf needs to be used for offense also.

 

... did you not see the xddd at the end...

 

The point of dwarf being 100% defensive oriented is intended. The class is intended to solo defend the flag so all other classes can play offence. It was designed for the meta of 'Capture the Flag' in which the majority of people went on offence and either tried to cap or had a small war in the middle of the map. If you were one of the 3 people who didn't want to go try and capture the flag or participate in the war, you played one of the 3 defensive classes from 2 years ago: 1. Heavy 2. Medic 3. Dwarf. People only changed to ninja when someone stole the flag and tried to recover.

The current meta of 'Defend the Flag' actually takes the majority of the classes out of their intended roles and flips them to the opposite. Heavies and medics are now used often on offensive attacks, and pyros and ninjas have primarily turned from attacking to defending. Necro and Engineer are actually intended to be frontline offence to lock down footholds in the enemy's base and provide support and distractions for teammates, not defend the flag and sit in spawn. The only exceptions to this are dwarf and soldier. Soldier has always been the stock offensive class, and it still remains as such, and dwarf has always been the stock defensive class and it still remains as such. The reason the Dwarf is OP currently is because there are more defenders helping any dwarfs and less attackers coming at once. When dwarf is played in its intended environment, it is actually quite balanced.

 

I really do like the idea of Heavys getting steak back for a certain amount of kills. So +1 on that. I'm not sure how I feel about the reduction of the buffs, though.

 

Was that on purpose?

 

No problem. Glad you liked the input.

 

+1

 

Saw this, went to assassin rework, liked assassin rework, decided I'm ok with every other change because I liked the assassin rework.

 

I like this. Good work like always.

 

*watches nothing being added*

 

Very good and extremely detailed. I like it.

 

why does nom always fail us with these good ideas?