Get CTF straight

That would explain it then. I had better connection to MCPVP's servers, and they're farther away from me than Brawl's are. I averaged ~70ms on MCPVP, and now I get ~200ms on Brawl with spikes up to 2500ms. I never really got spikes on MCPVP. But hey, it could just be my Internet giving out.

 

I totally agree, I gave brawl the benefit of the doubt a lot in the beginning, but I don't have a clue with what they want to achieve with a CTF like this...

 

@Plautius i agree with several of your points. However.....

• The video you posted wasn't "unplayable lag" imo, and also I haven't really been getting lag.
• The idea of donations, whilst could use a little refining, I completely agree with
• I think you simplicated the banner issue too much; it isn't as bad as u make it sound.

Am I the one who is happy with ctf rn?

 

The only problem for me is the lag. I'm a US player with 20 ping and I still get enormous amounts of lag on certain days. It's not even fun to play ctf with the lag. It would be nice, if somebody could tell us what is causing the lag (and I'm sure that I'm not the only one experiencing this) and then perhaps fix this. That would be great. It would certainly make brawl a lot more playable ._. These days, you can't even play a game with more than 40 players.

 

Here's my take on everything that's been said, point to point.

The lag isn't that bad unless it's a Friday, which brings in the most players due to free day (which, I'm a supporter of free day and I definitely don't want to see anything happen to it.) The more people there are on the server, the more lag is caused. However, this is why there are five servers to choose from. Obviously, fixing the free day lag would benefit everyone, but it's just one day of the week and that's bearable. Other than Fridays, I have experienced little to no lag on the servers. The argument that "it's because there's no EU servers" isn't valid, that's something the entire Brawl network has to do, not just the CTF staff.

The arguments over the wool and banners are starting to get really annoying. Adjusting to the banners didn't take long, and to be completely honest, it isn't much different in the end. I play just as much CTF as you do, and the banners haven't hindered my experience since @NomNuggetNom fixed the issues with them. I've never seen so many dissatisfied people to a change that in the end doesn't change much at all. I still find CTF enjoyable, I don't see the problem with the banners and I play just about every class and role. There's too much complaining for a change that isn't that much different in the end.

I remember talk about a Pyro rework and whether or not instakills should be removed or kept. Even with that, there's only so many coders and there's a lot of gamemodes. They'll come eventually, patience is key. Also, I understand the excessive talk about how "CTF never gets anything" and we "never get updates." People, chill out. Wave X came out recently, the match server is operational, Elf was released not that long ago, and there is definitely more to come. For everyone complaining about Elf, I've seen it useful in quite a few circumstances, it's definitely not weak. The coders can't always give their full attention to CTF, that's not how it works.

A tutorial would be nice, but not overly done. Also, what do you mean by making CTF simpler? I haven't noticed any drastic changes in making the game more simple.

Honestly, no matter what the staff does, there is always going to be someone that just isn't pleased. This is one of those cases. When the polls and donations were made, people weren't pleased with Elf at first, and some people still don't like it. When the staff makes changes (or plans to before the community shoots it down,) there is a post to along with it. I remember this for Elf, the map waves, the Medic change, and much more.

@Ironic_Boogeyman put it perfectly, the ban was fair.

Again with the wool...jfc...

Come at me, I guess.

 

Ctf's been garbage for 3 years running now and y'all should stop holding your breath.

 

tbh server lag has been an issue with brawl since the beginning of ctf. Theres always these random spike stht ik is not my internet mostly because i avg 35 ping >_>

 

Can I just add in there were, or at least seemed to be issue with the EU proxy recently. For example everyone who had connected through that, on an EU ip or vpn were all kicked(timed out) this lasted for about an hour.

Yeah it seems like any game with roughly over 30 people slows the gamespeed, even though the devs and mods are positive elf is the cause of all the lag, which it really isnt

 

on mobile, sorry if this comes out poorly.

but this is ctf, the changes involving reworks i'd assume go through them & brawl can only do much with their network for just one gamemode (eu servers for example, not happening.)

to be absolutely fair, a lot of the reworks are fairly complicated. classes like archer are meant to be kept simple and people make it over-complicated.

hallo has done **** on the forums he shouldn't have - he constantly made fun out of brawl & the staff & was immature af - definitely a justified ban

what polls?

k i play soldier all the time and i dont have issues picking up the flag or f5ing and i do it constantly. i also play pyro and dont c a difference. dropping has also been fine for me.

yes the servers are down to stress test, but do u notice how many people r on the servers while doing so, thats causing lag. besides, isnt stress testing also a step forward for u lag complainers???

^ rushed that, sorry if it came out v badly

 

If you're not going to argue your own points when people argue against them then don't post them in the first place.

You love the ctf staff, and yet post a demands post that accomplishes nothing in the long run because they're aware of your grievances and you just can't drop topics. Nice.

You want a ctf that doesn't die soon? Simplify. Make it accessible.

Who dafuq is hallo??

Ctf is not a democracy, no matter how much better it would be if it was.

Good god, #bannergate though.
To beat the remains of a long dead horse, it sounds to me that the complaints being made are literally the exact opposite to old complaints.
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Like, seriously. There were complaints stating that ninjas could cap too easily back on the old forums, now they can't and people are complaining.
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There were complaints about ctf being too self centred, and now the complaints are that it's not easy enough for one person to grab the flag.
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Don't know or care about dropping mechanics so I'll let that slide, but tbh the wool was neigh on f*cking impossible to see when dropped sometimes making recov archer specifically a hard task.
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If f5 is really that important to a capper then maybe that says something about how long you spend not looking in front of you. Even with the banner you should be able to see what's vaguely behind you, and otherwise the assassin is doing their job right.


F*cking lag again! What, do you want brawl to up and move the servers, which would likely cost upwards of $10,000, to cater to the players of a gamemode that would only make that profit back if every new player bought every class for a year?
Not happening. Honestly, if you wanted to help get rid of lag, you'd petition the removal of mages, elves, and anything else that throws off particles non-stop, and you'd probably not want the floating wool back either because it'd be an entity that would have to constantly exist.

 

My ping has gotten way lower way more consistent since McPvP. And Texas is way closer to me than Toronto o:

 

Sorry, lugia, but I think you and a lot of other US players don't really understand what eu ctfers experience everyday. Most eu players get 150+ ping and I hear US players complaining about 50. That's 3 times as bad. And we're not even 'lagging'; it's normal. And when it lags...well. When US players start complaining about 150 ping, it's almost certain that the people on the EU end of the stick are getting around 400+. Now that's unplayable ~ having to wait literally seconds for ninja eggs to throw and chemist pots to pot means that a ninja with ping below 200 could kill you before the server registers that you right click.

tl;dr

CAN US PLAYERS PLEASE NOT SAY THAT THE SERVER IS LAGGING. TRUST ME, IT IS.

btw this was on my phone as well so pls nu hate :c

Just adding, I got 2500 ping to brawl the other day without being in any skype calls etc, just mc open and no other devices connected to my WiFi

(and yes, I use ethernet, not WiFi)

 

Your.

Lag.

Is.

Not.

Brawl's.

Problem.

The server barely has funds enough to keep the Quebec servers running (At least, this is what I gather from the snippets that I catch here and there). If you want CTF to remain up at all, you should stop complaining and start accepting that Brawl is not your mommy: it will not bend over to fix your problem when you bawl your heart out.

 

Yeah...but it always helps for the games to be actually playable

@Plautius you can lock your own threads by doing this:

Thread tools (This should be just below the title I believe) -> Deselect 'Open'

 

"it's almost certain that the people on the EU end of the stick are getting around 400+. Now that's unplayable ~ having to wait literally seconds for ninja eggs to throw

CAN US PLAYERS PLEASE NOT SAY THAT THE SERVER IS LAGGING. TRUST ME, "

(mobile, not bothering to quote)

Firstly, if you have 400 ping, it is literally taking you between .4 and .5 of a second to throw an egg, not seconds.

Secondly, I'm not from US (NZ, which is worse than EU) and these servers are lagging LESS than what McPvP was. If Nom is doing stress testing or whatever (which he said he was doing) the servers may be laggy temporarily, which is something that EVERYONE has to deal with, not just Europe.

You get annoyed at the US players for complaining about lag, because they get 5 bars and you get 4, when there are players around who get 2 or 3 normally, so to them you're just as bad.

 

Anyway, arguing isn't going to get us anywhere, is it?