Idea THE BEST ARCHER REWORK EVER

Okay buddy

 

I believe this is too much of a nerf, and I don't really see the need for speed I.

 

Don't really see the point of the speed, but ender approves

 

damage over distance, ew D:

 

My opinion on this entire thread:
Meh
It's not great.
It's not bad.

 

2 shotting at such a distance is kind of useless because after the first shot, people usually try and hide. It's uneffective. Also, I could not give a damn for the feather for a speed boost. Does not help the role of the class whatsoever in my opinion. This idea isn't bad, but it needs a less bias rework so that people will actually want to play the class afterwards

 

it's something, better then keeping archer fair and balanced amiright? (for those people who do not understand sarcasm, it's sarcasm.)

 

I do! It's for dealing with the flippin heavies that chase you all the way across the map

 

Or ninjas or chemists or mages or medics or anyone that decides to hate you for playing archer.

 

*clicks alerts, sees tag, clicks to thread, rates winner after reading title, posts this before reading another word*

k read every word, now to form a response, as per my policy.

@everyonewhohatesonthespeedfeathers, don't you see that it's a much less hateable replacement for the Punch II? (@Admiral_Memeson this is assuming you mean full-powered shots by landing close-ranged shots.) Archer as it is, is indeed too powerful for such an escape as this, however it's also too powerful for the Punch II it currently has. With this version, it's less powerful, thus allowing something like this. Remember, archer is still a ranged class, and keeping distance is a necessity; if it becomes a mid-ranged class, it gets killed too easily and cannot kill easily enough, which significantly degrades its necessary role in the game as a last-resort recovery weapon.

(Also, gr8 job making the shortest good rework ever; I don't think enough people read the other thread.)

 

You didn't answer my question Munson ;~; it wasn't really a question but you get it ;P

 

I got kinda the same feeling bout it.

The idea has been suggested before (other than the feathers), but this basically just makes archer a class that sucks up some health. 1 shot, they steak twice easily in the two seconds, and they keep going. Not too often do i get two shots in a row on the same person. So, meh. Feather is also meh.

 

The time can always be reduced. Especially if the arrows the wind element uses can be increased. >.> </rant>

 

Unless you're talking about randies , people won't be hating you in the first place because of the instakill's removal.

 

Blockable headshot. Simple but effective rework.

 

Yes, that definitely won't make flag stalemates even longer just as flag carriers can also be invulnerable to assassins. And most of the time, you either don't see a headshot coming or can't block without halting your progress across the map, likely allowing a recovery team to catch up with ease.

 

To be honest, Slowness I is the difference between sprinting and not sprinting, which still makes for a moving target. Yes, it could make hitting the target a second time more likely, but it could even make the second shot more difficult; I personally find it quite awkward to go from shooting sprinting targets to shooting walking ones (I miss and cri evrytime .-.). Then again, the idea of this rework seems to be to remove instant kills in favor of a chance of survival, so the compromise is still good. It's a little hard to tell how it'll play out, but in principle it seems on a rather fine balance point--not that there's anything wrong with that.

I have been considering the dot time, though (okay what exactly is dot, and for that matter what is aoe? I never figured out those terms ;-; ). I think a whole 2 seconds seems a little long to give people a chance to self-heal (it also gives a fair window for a decent nearby medic to realize the situation and heal the player, not sure if that's your intention though). I think one second is a good number, especially considering how the Slowness I makes it much more noticeable for a player to realize they've been shot than if there were no Slowness (change in FoV, particularly, similar to how you know you've been struck with Earth Element before the dirt strikes). 1.5 seconds could be argued for.

Lastly, I have a suggestion--I've had this opinion for a long time, I kind of just forgot about it till now: at least halve the number of arrows archer gets. Not only is the second stack of arrows often useless due to death before being able to use it, but if one manages to survive long enough, it enables the archer to get kill streaks much too great--heck, even 64 arrows, with or without this rework, is plenty.