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Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by TheMaelstromsEye, Jun 22, 2016.

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  1. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    Due to all the support for old map events. Why not make a poll @Quarrelt to see if ctfers would like to be able to choose to add 5 maps from each wave, and there cant be any same maps("versions"). That way theres more then 20 maps.

    Remove class selector

    More classes

    Buff the classes instead of nerf them, once the nerf started happening more problems with other classes started showing because the class to counter that specific class was nerfed, when assassin was able to be blocked, more people noticed how broken dwarf was. Thats a fine example of the issue with nerfing the classes. Plus nerfing the class removes difficulty and the fun of the classes. We like op stuff. If assassin wasnt able to be blocked by dwarf, less people would complain about dwarf i would imagine.
     
  2. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I miss a lot of old maps, but they were all removed for a reason. Perhaps if we could vote on a map for a member of the build team to remake up to standards, that would be awesome, and I'll be posting that idea properly soonTM. But most maps that have been removed probably shouldn't just be re-added without any work on them.

    Yes please. I've always hated inventory GUIs, I'd much rather see a chat GUI which you can do /class to open.

    Only if they actually fit in with the game and have a good role. An example of what a class should not be is Elf, a class which was only added because of the donation goals and doesn't have a place in the game. And I'd rather see current classes worked on (note: not rebalanced, but worked on) than new classes.

    Eh, I have a very large opinion on what should be done to classes and the simple fact is, just rebalancing one or two classes will not make the classes more balanced. Unless if every class is updated at the same time, or in small but very frequent updates over a few months, CTF won't become balanced. And the issue with that is, the amount of coding that would need to be done to rebalance every single class is a lot, and the staff need to get it right first time or people will leave, since it'd completely change the way CTF plays.
     
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  3. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    If we're going to change the classes, I think there needs to be, 5-6efensive/recovery classes, 1-3 midfield, 2-4 offensive and a few chat an do anything. If a class doesn't fit in, it gets removed and another one gets added.
     
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  4. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    Yea, honestly, that would be cool.

    They were removed because a specific class or classes were severely op on a map, due to the nerfs, i can say that we should retry some maps, and thanks to elf there can be some maps like balloons if we really wanted it. And yea, I can definitely agree with the reworking the map to code with new classes and such.

    I hate class selector

    Check my class ideas(#shameless advertisement) as I thought of two classes that would be very fun defense and recovery classes while having weaknesses.

    Also, I know ctf will never be balanced, i never said it will be or ever was balanced, im just saying the nerfs made the problems of classes worse. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction as it were.
     
  5. Quarrelt

    Quarrelt Genetic co-leader | team!

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    For the old maps (@SoCool21) people already remake old maps, good and not so good builders. Either way, I prefer new maps to reworks because most old maps have to become a new map because of how poor it is. Nothing would replace the nostalgia of the old maps, even if they were changed - people would still want them.



    Those old maps won't be added back into rotation, but will remain for nostalgia purposes. Believe me, if you had to play those everyday, you'd get sick of them again.
     
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  6. TheMaelstromsEye

    TheMaelstromsEye Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your opinion. I get what ya mean, but I still think there should be a poll, and besides, even if they wanted old maps back, its not like the staff would ever actually do it.
     
  7. Quarrelt

    Quarrelt Genetic co-leader | team!

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    You're right, we aren't going to re-add the old maps. They were, as people have said, removed for a reason. It's not a case of "the staff isn't this, the staff doesn't that," it's just the fact they aren't suitable for the current game. I doubt any of these maps would be accepted or liked if they had been built and submitted to the current waves.

    The majority vote here also doesn't apply to all the new players that haven't even played the old maps. Just because regulars want a few moments of nostalgia doesn't mean we should subject everyone to their gameplay regularly. Plenty of people rework these maps, but their originals will stay removed.

    Trust me, I love playing on old maps, why? Because they're old and removed. If they were in rotation they wouldn't be special anymore and I'd probably hate them again like I started to when they got removed.
     
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