Admiral's really dank survey results

Disclaimer:

Seeing as the "what do you want?" forums survey was a complete success,

and actually yielded some pretty interesting results I wanted to make a post on it (originally I wanted to make a video but my mic wasn't cooperating, it was going to be ridiculously long, and all that other stuff). Many of you already know at least some of the results because I let people look at them (silly me) so you may know a lot of the results posted here already. That said, this thread is meant for two things: 1) clearly presenting the results to everyone 2) my impressions/comments on the feedback and 3) your impressions/comments on the feedback. Nothing else.

Value of the survey*:

(font used as a coutesy of @wintergreen3 so she doesn't have to read Times New Roman)

This survey is of limited value. This is for several reasons. First, it was conducted on the forums so it only gauges the opinions of the very small chunk of Brawlers or CTF'ers out there who bother to register an account on the forums and actually use it for something other than posting a moderator application. Second, there was no filter for troll responses (@BAWSS5) so if any response isn't entirely serious it messes with the results. Third, this was a voluntary response survey so the results are likely skewed in the direction of people who cared enough to answer all (or most) of the questions rather than providing a particularly accurate impression of the various views of the forums community (as any statistician would tell you). And finally, a few of the response choices weren't that serious and have nothing to do with the goal of the survey (to provide more meaningful data for what changes forums community members want) for example "I feel naked when I play Ninja" doesn't tell anyone anything about what changes you want to see with Ninja. Maybe it's a vote for no change at all if you like feeling naked? But what if you don't? It's useless data.

That's my fault by the way. I didn't expect to get 71 responses** (64 on most questions) so I didn't make this survey as serious as it should have been.

However, does that mean this survey is worthless? No. There were 71 respondents to Question 1, several dozen to the three text response questions, and 64 to all the remaining questions except the last two. That's a lot of a responses for a forums community where (if I had to guess) around 100 people are active or semi active on it. A lot of these responses also tended to say the same thing. For instance, a ton of people said something along the lines of "buff Ninja sharpness" in one of the written response questions and that opinion was corroborated by a result that showed the very large majority of respondents favor either a tweak or two for Ninja (buffing the sword sharpness to sharpness V was given as an example here). That data does have some value because it reflects an opinion held by the significant majority of the people who responded to the survey or took out the time to leave a comment or two. Furthermore, it is valuable because, as I ranted about in a much older thread, there is no way to ascertain the size of the CTF community (let alone properly survey them) because CTF is a server not a country (or a school body). Anyone can pop in for a few minutes, leave, and never come back. There is no constant size at any given time so how do you properly survey the opinions of that fluctuating body? You can't. Surveying the opinions and thoughts of a few dozen people on the forums, who are basically the only people who have demonstrated they give enough of a damn about the gamemode to go and post stuff on the forums about it (rants, reworks, team stuff, maps, etc.), is the only reasonably good way to get an idea of what the playerbase wants. CTF forumers tend to be more experienced and dedicated and anyway, who else is talking about reworks and so on outside of this little forums section? Finally, 47 people left written responses on what they wanted changed and why (specifically classes) and that kind of feedback is, for the most part, invaluable since it gives the full scope of someone's opinion, thoughts, etc. etc.

**the actual number of respondents on the first question is 70 since I double voted on the first question when I was testing out the survey (this was my first time using Google Forms). I answered class reworks twice. The data below has been adjusted accordingly.

Priorities:

Other than Brawl keeping CTF up and running and the posting of more selfies to the IRL gallery, CTF forumers really want to see class changes.

Exactly half of the 70 respondents to the first question (35/70) put 'Class reworks' at the top of their priorities list. Combined with the 27.1% who wanted 'Tweaks' 77.1% (or 54/70) of respondents wanted class changes of some kind.

On the other hand, only 4/70 respondents (5.7%) considered the issues with the teams system their priority, whereas 5/70 said maps. The 9/70 respondents or 12.9%, were ambivalent.

Reworks:

Over half of the 47 forumers (no idea why the response rate to this question was this low) want Necro to be reworked over all other classes. 24/47, or 51.1% want a Necro rework before anything else. Interestingly, 4/47 (8.4%) of respondents picked Medic to be reworked first, while an equal number wanted the same for Archer, and 5/47 respondents wanted an Assassin rework before any other class. 2/47 - 5% or less of respondents wanted either Ninja, Engineer, Soldier, Mage, Dwarf, Pyro, or Chemist for the same.

No one chose Heavy or Soldier as their no.1 rework priority.

Verbal Responses:

This was my favorite part of the survey because 1) some of the responses were funny, 2) some of the responses were even funnier, and 3) because some respondents took the time to write well thought out and valuable feedback on x, y, and z.

Spoiler: Feedback for: "Why would you like to see the class you selected in the previous question reworked?"

Some of this feedback was fantastic but some of the responses like "it's ****", "I wanna pony" (@BAWSS5), "It is too weak", "it's as useless as I am in math", "bc it takes alot of dmg and does alot of dmg" and other stuff are not helpful. That's partially my fault because I didn't ask what class respondents had selected in the prior question. However, this question received 47 responses so make of it what you will.

(hi @obikenobi21)

Spoiler: Feedback for: "What specific tweaks do you have in mind and why would you want to like to see them happen?"

The 25 responses to this question were a little less troll-y and fairly good overall. Restoration of sharpness V for Ninja was requested in 6 of the responses and there was one request for Miley Cyrus because her "twerks would benefit this server". That was you too wasn't it @BAWSS5?

Spoiler: Feedback for: "If you answered 'team system' for Question 1, what changes would you like to see made and why?

There were 19 responses to this question and at least three of them were something along the lines of "n/a" and two involved a lenny face. Still, there was some good feedback to this question as well so take that for what it's worth.

Spoiler: Feedback for: "If you answered "maps" for Question 1, what specific changes do you have in mind? And what map or maps would you have removed if you could?"

One response was not included in the screenshot, mainly because I don't feel like screen-shotting a single line of text, and it said "More maps and maybe 1 server with old maps?" Most of the other responses were trolls, contained a lenny face, and not worth reading for any serious feedback (although ONE response was an entire song).

Classes:

As mentioned earlier there were 64 responses to each question on the opinion of all 13 classes. To my knowledge, there were no repeats. The following are the results for Heavy, Medic, and Pyro:



2/64 respondents think Heavy needs a rework. 25/64 thinks it needs no changes, including fixing critical hits, and the remaining 37 do. Nevertheless, these results are somewhat misleading. The 57.8% result for tweaks regarding Heavy is most likely due to a desire to get its critical hits fixed (i.e., not taking 6 hearts of damage from an un-buffed Heavy in one hit) and reducing the power of buffed Heavy, rather than out of the popularity of messing with the armor, weaponry, or health-pool of the class. How do I know this? Because the most common complaints about Heavy on the forums (and in the written portion of this survey) has been one of two things: broken crits or buffed Heavy, both of which make the class extremely strong. Plus, the near total lack of support for a Heavy rework let alone making a rework a priority also indicates a greater level of satisfaction with the class' base design among respondents (which crits and strength/speed buffs from Chemist are not a part of).

9/64 of respondents want a Medic rework, which is somewhat surprising although its significance is negligible. Less surprising is the 33 respondents who want tweaks of some kind to Medic, which could encompass all manners of changes ranging from restoring sharpness I on the sword to changing up the webs (i.e. coding them so that allies don't get stuck in them like enemies do, removing the ability to break webs instantly) or lowering Medic's health pool (i.e. by eliminating it's natural regeneration or reducing the number of steaks or both). The remaining 24/64 want no changes at all.

An equal number of respondents as Heavy want to see some changes with Pyro. Noting the example given next to the second question, a lot of respondents want to see the return of one click frenzy mode. It's an assumption at best but it's one worth mentioning as the idea of bringing back one click frenzy has been popular on the forums since the frenzy mode trigger was changed to a double click several months ago.



Forumers are split over what to do with Assassin. Less than half of the total, 26/64 respondents, want to see it get a rework. A close second, 22/64 respondents want to see no changes at all, another 9 want to see it tweaked (although what kind of tweaks is unclear), 4 want to see it removed (including me), and 3 more have a lot of problems with the class but apparently aren't sure what to do about it.

The opinion on Necro is far more uniform. A whopping 9 in 10 respondents, or 57/64 of the total, not only want a rework but are wondering where on earth it is. Including me. So to reiterate the message... WHERE IS THE REWORK BRO??? 4 pinheads think it doesn't need any changes (seriously, WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?) and the remaining 3 respondents want to see some tweaks but not a rework to the class.

For the most part, forumers do not want to see any changes to Soldier. 40/64 respondents voted for the third option, "it's fine" and for those who do want to see some additions opinion is divided as to whether or not Soldier should receive a rework or a few tweaks.

The opposite is the case with Mage. 52/64 respondents, or 81.2% of the total want to see some kind of change to the class, with 51.6% breaking in favor of various tweaks and other minor changes, and the remaining 29.7% favoring a rework. Of those favoring a rework 11 think Mage is "OP and needs a rework" whereas 8 think it's not OP but still warrants a rework. Whether a full on rework or incremental changes would be preferred by the large majority of the forums community is unclear, but it is very clear that the large majority (over 8/10, nearly as many who want a fix to Necro) of respondents want some kind of change to Mage.



39/64 respondents, or 60.9% (almost 2/3rds of the total), want Ninja to be tweaked. 2/64 want a rework and the remaining 21/64 either think the class is fine as it is or "feel naked" when playing it (this option was selected 10 times). Clearly, there is little desire for a Ninja rework but a lot for tweaks (especially with regards to ghost capping or sharpness V). These results are further compounded by the multiple requests for tweaks in the written response section.

Opinion on what to do with Engineer is heavily split among the four options. 12/64 respondents, the smallest total for any of the four, want the class to be removed. An equal number want an Engineer rework and (even more) tweaks. Only 14/64 respondents, a narrowly larger number than those calling for a removal, think it needs no changes. On the other hand, there is some uniformity in that 59.4% of respondents or 38/64 want to see changes with Engineer.

Moreover, 35/64 respondents, 55.6% of the total want a Dwarf rework with the large majority of them saying that it is an OP class. 14 voted for tweaking the class and none voted for no changes (in part because that wasn't an option! ). An equal number also voted for my Dwarf poem/joke "Roses are red, Dwarf is OP, hi I'm Rick Harrison and this is my pawnshop" which I am extremely proud of because it's a really bad joke.

To my surprise and damn near astonishment, the forums community is extremely divided as to what to do about Archer. Exactly a quarter of respondents seem to have no preferred course of action (no idea if this is true or not) but are just really, REALLY angry about headshots. A whopping, and mind blowing (to me) 17/64 respondents or 26.6% of the total, do not want to see any changes whatsoever, which is significantly larger than the 13 respondents who want a rework. 18 respondents favor a tweak or two to Archer, most likely removing Punch I from the bow (that was the example tweak provided in the answer choice and eliminating the knockback enchantment has been frequently requested on the forums before). In total only 48.1% of respondents favor changing Archer. That said, the large number of responses to the "Fu(&!#*^&! HEADSHOTS" option skewed the data quite a bit (some respondents could have chosen this option as a joke and so on) so I have reposed the question in a poll on this thread as to what members of the forums community want done with the class. Please answer it.



Neither of the final two class results listed above are very interesting so I won't go in depth into either one of them.

54.7% of respondents want some minor changes to Chemist and a total of 65.6%, about two thirds of the total, want something done.

Elf's result is also somewhat predictable. The huge majority of respondents, 52/64 (81.2%) in this case, want changes made to the class. A quarter want a rework and the rest want a series of tweaks although what those tweaks are isn't entirely clear although there has been a lot of support voiced for buffing the water element (which has been repeatedly described as "virtually useless").

In other news...



Almost two thirds of the forums community does not like Leafy. That makes me happy. #NOCHIN take that emoface!

Also, over 60% of forumers would rate "dat ass" an 8/8. The other 39% were too self conscious to respond.

Ladies and gentlemen that's it for the stats today. Guys if you love StatAlert feel free to slap a like on it. Thanks for reading.

-Admiral

 

Liking the new avatar m8

Miley Cyrus' twerks should definitely be a thing in CTF. +1