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  1. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Where is the salt?
    I knew everything about the game modes when I was staff and I wasn't even a moderator at the time.
    What do you mean? If a moderator isn't on the server that encourages cheaters to hack because there's a less chance of them being caught. If you're referring to them AFKing on the server, most of them do it in the lobby or in /poof so again, there's no discouragement whatsoever. The only thing I can think of that would discourage cheaters is if a moderator is afking on a specific server where the cheater is on, but then again the cheater could just hop on another server.
    Yeah no. I have no respect towards the way I (and MANY others) were treated on the staff team. You've never been staff, so you don't know what to expect or anything about what it's like. And from what past moderators have told me, it's gotten worse than how it was before (which is crazy to me because Brittain was still an admin back when I was staff). I did my job, was treated poorly, so I left.
    This thread is to be made towards every staff member who fail to do what they signed up for. PMing putty or Roke will not do anything, as they will simply ignore it as they have for months and months.
     
  2. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    Ya, I actually reported one application once because it was taking over 30 days to get resolved (actual Brawl rule), but the report got denied
     
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  3. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Sort of adding onto this, I think we need the staff team to be more of a quality over quantity scenario imo. If you lower the requirements / standards I think it will just cause more complaints to arise saying that "X staff member doesn't do anything" and cause another witch hunt fueled by the community wanting a bunch of staff demoted (which is understandable). I think if the current staff team were to focus on solidifying what they have now and really cracking the whip down on a bunch of things, a lot of the complaints / issues would disappear.
     
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  4. DaddyPurest

    DaddyPurest Ex-Party Mod

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    Belive it or not buddy things have changed, hack tests have been being held regularly since vivas resignation. Changes are happening in the brawl community, new gamemodes are being released, events are an often occurrence, and new moderators are being accepted. I think the change is for the better and we need to stop bringing up the past like it determines what we do in the future.
     
  5. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    I can guarantee you that if you were mod, you would not spend your whole time just banning players. There's always 1+ hacker online and if you are the only mod online you will be constantly having to tp and watch players. I can also guarantee that you would not bother going to every single gamemode because when people are applying for moderator it says which gamemode they are applying for, just because they have the global tag or whatever **** doesn't mean they have to know about every single gamemode. In fact, it's incredibly annoying having warz mods or war mods who don't know CTF ban people for flying because sponges and no fall because soldier etc.
     
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  6. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    You're not guaranteeing anything based on my actions, you're guaranteeing based on yours. Just because you wouldn't do your job doesn't others won't. There might always be "1+ hacker online" (not sure where you're getting this information but alright) and if they're reported I would deal with it. But I'm not applying, so it would be better to leave that to the people who are currently staff, no?

    And I would bother going to different game modes, actually. If you ignore reports just because it's not your gamemode the hacker problem won't be solved, especially when there are no moderators for that specific gamemode online. And if you're a global mod for CTF who doesn't know anything about WarZ's plugins, that's a problem in itself. Especially considering the fact that one of the staff applicant's questions on their application is "What is your experience and knowledge of Brawl?". Every single accepted applicant I've read so far has answered that they're experienced on the server and that they have obtained knowledge of the gameplay. If having knowledge of all of Brawl's servers wasn't important and a requirement for staff it wouldn't be listed as a question on the application.
    And how often is 'regularly'? I rarely see JMODs promoted to Mods and if the test is as easy as Mods claim it is than JMODs shouldn't failing it.
     
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    xGhale HG‘s Doom guy

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    Jeez get off of your high horse already.
     
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  8. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Come up with a valid point and then maybe
     
  9. DaddyPurest

    DaddyPurest Ex-Party Mod

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    Every 2-3 months, enough time for JMODS to go through trial phase and get a handle with being staff. And the difference between being a MOD and JMOD is very different. MODS can ban and JMODS can not. If JMODS are not familiar with hacks it shows they are not capable of banning accurately. MODS have the knowledge that why it is easy for them....pretty self explanatory.
     
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    "regularly" lmfao
    also, the past really can determine the future. if you set yourself up for failure and then ignore what you did you're dooming yourself for no reason.

    when there's barely anyone applying to be a staff member i think that more people should be given a test to see how they do. That's what trial is there for, but trial really means nothing. trial just means you aren't global staff yet.
     
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  11. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    That is not regularly LMAO
    Regularly would be around twice a month. That's the reason we have a hacker problem.
     
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    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    DaddyPurest Ex-Party Mod

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    If you acknowledge what you did in the past and use that faliure and success to better your self in the future there will be a positive impact. It’s he mind set.
    Also....*casually accepts 4 jmods* “there are barely anyone applying to be staff.”

    Eveyother week staff exams would be a joke.We do not have the player base at which it is necessary to have a staff exam twice a month.
     
  14. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    No need to get petty about dissecting word choice. It only causes flame wars. I think this discussion is actually valuable and needed rn, but pettiness gets in the way of productivity. I think the hack tests should be more "often" though as they do help keep mods in check + open up a window for promotions.
     
  15. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    He implied "regularly" as in more often when it is not often whatsoever.
    *jmods who made applications months ago*
    You don't have the player base to be so strict while accepting staff applicants/promoting players either. A staff exam once or twice a month is not a big deal. Have JMODs who are just accepted go a month or two to figure out everything, then allow them to take the hack test without waiting several months.
     
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    We just got our staff manager back, see change for the better! Eveything will start to run a lot smoother.

    The test changes every time to prevent cheating. And as you said one or two months. Chances are the applicant will have time to mature and learn the role within the time allotted between the current scedual of hacktests. No need for 2 hack tests a month.
     
  17. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    probably like the 100th time I've heard that in the last couple years, nothing's changed
    1 hack test a month should be enough time for you to change the test, especially considering "how easy it is", which is what you all have been telling me.
     
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    Just saying, if I was a jmod, I am on for many hours during the weekend past 10:00 ET. Next election vote forme and you will see better results to your issue. I do agree, when I am on war there are occasionally (now more common) hackers on, who just ruin the game and frustrate people. Whether it is with speed hacks, fly, killaura, aimbot, teleport, etc.

    Hey, what is going on with the broken war servers btw?
     
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  19. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    no
     
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  20. DaddyPurest

    DaddyPurest Ex-Party Mod

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    Uhhhhh..... the servers are being fixed? And I know the war staff team has been working on anti cheat for war but it’s been a bumpy few weeks since the war SMOD resigned.
     
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