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Idea Ninjaeggs nerf

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by DJ_V5th, Nov 10, 2015.

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Is this Rework a good idea?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    Problem:
    At the moment ig most of the time spam their flash bombs, u get damage and the effects of the eggs start every time from the beginning when a ninja makes good hits.
    Solutions:
    U see as chemist you just can throw just some pots after his xp bar is emty. than he has to wait until its full again to throw new pots.
    The idea is that the ninja has the same thing.
    He throws 2 eggs, after that the xp bar is emty so he has to wait until the xp bar is full again.
    That provokes that the ninja has to use his eggs in the right moment and tactical (many ninjamainers say that ninja is a class where you need tactic. I think now you need more tactic with this rework.).

    With the effects would be the best solution if that the effects of the egg dont stack (time adds every time when a ninja makes a good hit with his eggs). @NomNuggetNom is that possible ?

    Thx for reading :smile:
     
  2. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    As annoying as it is, eggspam is one of the few counters to Pyro and Dwarf. Until these 2 classes are fixed, I don't think this change would be for the better.
     
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  3. Codebastian

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    I do think that this is a good idea and should be intended to look into.
     
  4. GreenNature

    GreenNature Nature is Creative

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    eggs don't deal damage
     
  5. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    As @Jon_craft11 stated, you do not get damage from being hit by an egg, only knockback. I do agree with @SoSpooky21 stating its being a counter to Pyro and Dwarf.
    I'd say, for this to be implemented, that the amount should be increased to 3-4 eggs, instead of 2. Just my two cents.
     
  6. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    not correct
    4 is to much
    i just said a number but i think between 2 and 3 is good
    everyone says that for ninja you need tactic so now you need tactic and dont be a noob spaming eggs -_-
     
  7. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    I agree, Ninja does need tactics to capture. One of the tactics, however, is to throw 3-4 eggs at a Dwarf or Pyro to knock them back so you can steal the flag. ^-^
     
  8. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I'd rather have a class spam eggs than a class 1 shot other classes with no viable counter whatsoever.

    Like I said, eggspamming is a problem, but not as much of a problem as Pyro and Dwarf. Its coming up to a year since we've been promised a Pyro nerf from current coders, so I shouldn't think it'd be too long, unless Pyro getting a rework was a lie.
     
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  9. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    usually the ninjas throw like 7 eggs or all of them -_-
    no tactic just nooby
    it sounds like u r some1 who loves ninjas and dont want that they are going to be changed
    dwarf doesnt need nerf
    pyro just take the helmet away than its fine
     
  10. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    Dwarf does need a nerf, it really does. The fact that it's fire resistant and immune to potions after level 5, can block headshots, and can one shot just about every class after level 20 gives reason for it to be nerfed.
    Pyro will need a rework too. Taking the helmet away won't do much good, other than making is have .5 less armor points. That doesn't fix the ability to insta-kill anything that catches on fire (every class except Medic, and Dwarf after level 5, as stated above).
    Ninja doesn't really need a fix, and the egg spam isn't that bad. @CookingIsSoFun I'd like to hear the opinion of a Ninja player
     
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  11. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I love ninja but I do think it should be changed. As I've said twice, eggspamming is a problem but its the best way to take out 2 overpowered classes.
    Thanks for this, I've just been revising for a business exam and could do with a good laugh.

    Dwarf is a camping class which can get over sharpness 15 on a diamond sword. It has very good health and only does good in the flagroom where there'll be a lot of medics. Its immune to Pyro, it isn't hard to counter Assassin with it and it can counter Archer just by blocking, too. It snowballs, and most veterans would agree that Dwarf needs a change or else it'd be allowed in team matches.

    Pyros armour is weak enough, but being able to easily 1 shot anyone is the problem.

    EDIT: Just gonna summarise what I'm trying to say and quit arguing, before I get that thing from that guy who really needs to go outside.

    Ninja eggspamming is a problem. Its not exactly a skilful tactic and if you know when to do it, it can be the difference between capping and dying. However, Pyro and Dwarf are a bigger problem than eggspamming, and one of the best ways to counter these classes is via eggspam, so removing eggspam would make a bigger problem even bigger.

    kthxbai
     
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    #11 SoCool21, Nov 11, 2015
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2015
  12. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    ok i will eggspam u soon lets see if you like it
    try to oneshot good pyros
    im sure you wont survive it
    defence class
    he needs sharpness to kill more than one player or buffed chemist
    if medics team than it is easier to kill one of them with lvl 10 dwarf
    and remember slowness 2
    no, well than you should play dwarf longer than 5 min
    sorry socool but that is the funniest part in your reply
    i talked with some players and if you take the helmet away a pyro can be 2 hitted
    that makes him easier to kill because if a pyro has good reactions he kills everything (except pyros, medics and dwarfs over lvl 5)
    atm it is more difficult to reach lvl 20 than get hsted by an archer
    when i see the dwarf from last year and from this year i noticed that the xp bar charges very slow
    every class can kill dwarfs, u just need to attack in the right moment (slowness 2)
    thats the problem
    i get more kills as archer
    the problem at brawl is that a dwarf needs to survive like 6 ppl at the same time
    most of the time 1 heavy 2 medics 1 mage 1 ninja and about 2 assassins
    sometimes there r spamming archers, elfs and mages which is also nooby -_-
    (and u guys say that dwarf is nooby and than u play nooby with much spam and an 8 vs 1. ok pls think again who is the noob or who r the noobs)
    i think u r right in one point
    more than 2 dwarfs in the flagroom is ****

    wow it looks like no1 else has to say sth against this rework idea O.O
    to be honest i am suprised
     
  13. Ironic_Gentleman

    Ironic_Gentleman Well-Known Member

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    I have this very odd, nagging suspicion that that was referring to Pyro's ability to oneshot. Ninja can't oneshot anybody.
     
  14. DJ_V5th

    DJ_V5th Well-Known Member

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    say it to him not to me
    btw what i wanted to say is that he should try to kill good pyros
    he wont survive it so easy
    except he eggspams and 414s
    if you take the helmet away you r able to 2 shot a pyro
    and he has still the ability to 1 shot you
    so it is more fair
    you can kill him easier while he can still oneshot u :smile:
     
  15. lasertagfighter

    lasertagfighter Well-Known Member

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    An infinite amount of eggs can cause lots of abuse. A ninja camping at the enemy flag just trolling the defenders throughout the whole game.
     
  16. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    The only real time I have found eggspam a viable tactic (playing as Ninja quite often) is on the map Platforms I. Where the edge of the map is usuallly only a few blocks away, and its a simple way to recover if the flag is off the map as a whole. Otherwise only one or two eggs will do the same job as 12,000.
     
  17. Ducksfan101

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    Here's really the solution:
    Dwarf- rework the whole class, it's annoying as f*** after it gets to level 5
    Pyro- needs some nerf-ing
    Ninja- same mechanics as Mcpvp with the flash-bombs. The effects on Brawl aren't the same and way less useful than Mcpvp
     
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