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Why can elf do this?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by pookeythekid, Jan 29, 2016.

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  1. pookeythekid

    pookeythekid Well-Known Member

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    DISCLAIMER: Refer to my elf guide if you don't think I have any idea what I'm talking about. Have fun destroying your brain trying to comprehend the 4300 words which prove that I do in fact know what the heck I'm talking about.

    'Aight lemme present you with a situation here.

    It took 6 shots to kill a heavy just because they steaked. Really? Elf is difficult enough, why is this possible?

    I'm having some fun playing elf on Blackout. I'm kind of on a roll considering I just got back from about two weeks of inactivity (or at least minor activity since I've still been on these forums now and then). I even headshot-reflected @archerdwarf (I'm sorry I couldn't help myself pls dun kill me l8r kthx <33 c: ). Granted that's far more up to luck than it is up to skill, which I will now also add to this complaint: make the shield more interactive and therefore have a higher skill cap and effectiveness.

    But here's the real issue. A few minutes later, I find myself in a fight against a heavy. Now, contrary to many who have tried to play elf, I find this to be a rather simple 1v1 and fairly easy win after having practiced this class for a couple hundred hours or however long I've nolifed it.

    I land a couple shots in a row, then get that sparkly explosion particle effect which signifies that the next shot is the kill blow. Cool, I'm about to get a kill. Apparently not, because the next shot does in fact not kill the person. I proceed to land another two shots in a row (without missing, so I'm on a 5-shot streak here), get the particle effect yet again. Land my sixth consecutive shot, and no kill again. Why? Because steaking fast enough prevented the kill.

    I honestly forgot whether or not I died after this (I think so), but that's not what I care about; I'm an elf, I die a lot anyway. The fact of the matter should be obvious: if it's possible for six consecutive fully-charged shots on a strafing target to not get the kill, something is wrong.


    Solution: make 4 the maximum number of shots to get the kill. Or better yet for many aspiring elves, make it 3 shots like it usually is. Also, quick question for those who would like to answer: where did the myth of a two-shot kill come from? I've seen that around on the forums in threads about elf; I would like to clarify that it's a lie and would also like to know how it came to be.

    thanks you for the portion of your life that you chose to meaninglessly dedicate to this post that possibly does not affect your likely-non-elf-playing self

    (@Admiral_Munson I heard you like elf rants)

    edit: can't believe I forgot to make this point, but I'll do it now: This can at least be some form of small sugar coating for the wind element nerf. Pllleeaaassseee????
     
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  2. jarboyp

    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    That's impossible. 6 hearts * 6 times =36 hearts. 3 steaks * 4 hearts= 12 hearts. 36-12= 24, and a Minecraft player only has 10 hearts so the heavy shouldn't be alive.
     
  3. pookeythekid

    pookeythekid Well-Known Member

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    Elf doesn't do pure damage for every shot. It's a snowball combo: 1st shot does normal arrow damage, 2nd shot does lots of damage, 3rd shot is usually the killblow.
     
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    2 shots can't kill a heavy. 2 fast enough shots can kill any class with an armor lower to soldier's.
     
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    jarboyp Bunny Defender

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    I think it used to be 6 pure hearts of damage each full bowshot. It should be changed back to that again.
     
  6. pookeythekid

    pookeythekid Well-Known Member

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    ..... can I live in that world? :grinning: (before anyone attacks me for wanting something like that, I'll state for a third time I have no problem with current 3 shots)
    I never said 2 shots kills a heavy or anyone else. 2 shots does not kill even a full-health assassin (or ninja in some cases). I would know. I play elf all the time.
    edit: this shows my research on what I just said above, added it to main post just now
     
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    Strangely enough you sound exactly like my history teacher :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  8. NomNuggetNom

    NomNuggetNom Professional Breaker

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    Are you pulling your bow back far enough? It has to be a full power shot to do the true damage.
     
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  9. pookeythekid

    pookeythekid Well-Known Member

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    yeeessssssssss....... ;-;
    I appreciate the suggestion but yeah, I can play elf pretty dang well. At least with pure element because I suck at capping no matter what class I am. And I don't get the particle effects without fully charged shots, either (I'm 98% sure...). And anyway, after the explosion of particle effects, the next fully-charged shot doesn't kill them sometimes.

    Don't get me wrong, this thread isn't about pure element not working at all, I get plenty of kills with it. It's just that these occurrences, although infrequent, are annoying.

    Edit: As a matter of fact, if a person steaks fast enough it usually takes 4 or sometimes 5 shots to kill a person; 6 shots like the original instance happens rarely. But still, the very idea that it can take 4 consecutive rapidly landed shots doesn't seem right.
    Re-edit: changed title to something more to the point

    Bump. This is still a thing. (edit: lol double post merged)
     
  10. GalaThundR

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    I noticed aswell that fully drawn back combo shots don't always do the true damage. It took me about 5 arrows to kill 1 heavy (no steaking) because the arrows didn't apply the true damage. This has happened on multiple occasions.
     
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    >.> this isn't about under-charged shots thoughh
     
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    These were fully drawn back shots.
     
  13. pookeythekid

    pookeythekid Well-Known Member

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    Lol sorry, misread your message
     
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    The feeling when someone states something is impossible when it actually just happened.
     
  15. ExtremeEvoboost

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    My limited and sucky usage of elf cannot even aim properly enough to test this. ;-;
     
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    I'd also like to know why elves cannot reflect most of mage's spells back at them, or make pyros set themselves on fire anymore. The shield will only reflect the ice and fire spells, ignore the lightning and healing spells, and straight up disintegrate the damage spell. Mage used to have a good counter to it but now that elf cannot reflect most of their spells back at it all they have to do is spam damage and lightning. Not to mention elf's wind element nerf making it harder to get near the mage. Also, why cant pyros be set on fire anymore? I found it hilarious when I made a triple pyro team set themselves all on fire and they started screaming in chat "wtf you hax0r11!1!111!1". It wasn't game breaking and added another little counter to pyro. (I know the water arrow is a strong counter to pyro, but the irony in making a pyro burn himself to death is just too great).

    (Edited: Just remembered that assassin and ninja are strong counters to mage, but you catch my jist.)
     
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  17. jarboyp

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    Pyro has been nerfed to the point where this addition would just piss-off more pyro mains. Plus, it isn't really needed anyway. Pyro got a good nerf to it.
     
  18. pookeythekid

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    YESS!! The shield is indeed quite broken. I've been headshotted and exploded by pyro arrows from a good distance away while using the shield. At first for the pyro one it seemed that it was only at point-blank range, while the pyro was inside the shield, where it wouldn't work, which was upsetting but made sense. But when the arrow comes from outside the shield and hits the outer sphere, the continues onward and hits me, I get a little upset.
     
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    I guess maybe it's glitched? I don't play elf much so I don't know how to help.
     
  20. Nooksva

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    *Buys elf*
    "Dude this is awesome!"


    1 day later.......

    *Elf gets nerfed*

    ;~;
     
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