pearl/ghost capping

hypocrite

A self-absorbed, arrogant prick who constantly pisses and moans about other people doing something wrong, yet engages in such behavior anyway. Probably someone who has a really ugly girlfriend named Pinky.

I'm pretty sure matt doesn't have a girlfriend named Pinky.

 

Solution let an elf guard the outside of the flag room and see if there is any enderpearls and quickly head over to it and deflect it!

 

Maybe when the flag is stolen enderpearls are returned to one's inventory. This doesn't solve every problem, but it could be a start.

 

they would have to time that down to the millisecond bill.

 

And for F2P's?

 

we should mage spam the flag pole to prevent premature and invis capping!!!

 

As a new ninja main (yes i went from archer to medic to ninja) i find ninja capping to be rather easy on most maps. Unless there are turrets, dwarfs, or ppl constantly staring at flag. I dont think nerfing ninja capping is necisarry unless u nerf dwarf, and rework engi. Ninja definetly needs a change with its capping ability but untill the other classes are fixed theres no reason to change it. Because sometimes the only way to cap on a huge 15 person flagroom with dwarfs is with a ninja.

 

The only reason I object to this. Stalemates.

I can't tell you how many times I've come upon a game, and no matter what happens nothings getting anywhere.

Such a case happened with @Ducksfan101 and I. (Forget the map) I used Elf to bounce his pearl in the air, giving him enough time to steal, and finally, stalemate over.

Don't like ghost caps? Pay attention to your FLAG.

Edit:

I still hate u 2 @Kriz

 

The issue I have with ghost capping is that unless you own ninja yourself, once the ninja is out of the flag room, you're probably not going to recover before it caps because you can't catch up quickly enough.

(Let's not lock this for gravedigging quite yet. There's still a discussion to be had here.)

 

The worst is when you see the ninja on the flag and go to kill/knock it away and they spam you with eggs.


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While it may be easy to counter, it's not easy to stop. Now, I realize that sounds contradictory, but let me explain. While you can camp the f0k out of the flag, you can't do it all the time. A ninja can brainlessly just spam pearls, and be out of the flagroom 1/10 times. Once they're out of the flagroom, it's pretty much game over. Speaking from experience here, it's almost impossible to catch up to a ninja capper, unless you pearl basically the moment they steal. In addition, a bunch of them don't even go straight to the flag, they suicide, switch classes, and immedietly pick it back up. In that case, you can't do anything because it's a guessing game to which way the ninja will go. Even if you damage the ninja a bunch, they can just suicide right by spawn or by an ally, and a tankier class will pick it up..

 

ninja's are clutch asf.

Honestly if a ninja gots the flag, be a Mage, Ninja, Or Archer to recov ... everything else would be to slow/ineffective!

 

@__ES @SoCool21

This is a big point about ninja capping. Escaping the flag room 1/10 times is about the same rate as a moderately skilled capper (at least I would say, especially on larger games). To justify the possible understatement, I did say just escaping the flag room; actually capturing the flag is probably about that ratio for many regular cappers.

The thing about ninja capping is not at all how often it happens and how frustrating that frequency is--it's about how it's achieved. It's all about working almost literally behind the enemy's back, and it takes people entirely by surprise when it's done successfully. It seems unfair because it's often beyond the control of the defense, while the same amount of flag room escapes occur with soldier, medic, and even heavy in the first place. It's somewhat like the current assassin don't judge me for bad analogy: sometimes you die because it's ping-based or comes out of nowhere (don't give me that f5 crap), but sometimes it's due to actual skill and good redstone faking. (Maybe you never get redstone faked, but the analogy works for me because I'm way too gullible. xD) Either way, as long as you try to block well (analogous to trying to defend well), either way you end up getting killed about the same percentage of the time.

u hav a lot of messages o,o

 

Ninja is rip right now. It desperately needs a sword buff and a pearl nerf to turn it into the class it was meant to be. Right now it's weak af on defense and can easily cap on the best defenses. (Also, stop the bs about being able to recover off a good ninja. Just one person to heal or pass off and your done). Sharp 5, not able to pick up flag with a pearl out. Easy fix imo

 

So when I'm playing defensive Ninja, I always make sure to check for the usual "Ghost Cappers" Or the players who would cause my defense to be in trouble. Depending on the map structure sit in front of the flag in the most likely area for them to steal and pearl with the flag. For ghosting Ninja's, one must think objectively. Defense isn't just waiting for someone to come into a Flagroom and steal the flag. One must think how their opponent thinks. Who are they (Player name, and skills), What attack are they bringing (class), and lastly how will they escape.

Depending on what type of map is currently in rotation, I might possibly stay outside the flagroom waiting for potential ghost cappers etc.

 

I'm also almost always watching for ghosters/prematures when I play defense, they're just a basic fact of CTF. But still, I get surprised from time to time, and sometimes I'll be one block too many away from the flag and even if I get a hit off, it's half a second too late and the flag is stolen just before the enemy is knocked out of range. And then of course there are legitimate distractions, either with real teamwork or by some randie, which are often pretty effective in giving a ghost cap opportunity (I will also do my best to watch the flag during distractions, but sometimes it's necessary to leave your post for two seconds >.>).

 

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