Idea Quick Fix-it Thread

Archer - I honestly don't have that much of a problem with archer, but perhaps a headshot cooldown might be a good idea. The headshot capability of archer is very useful and sometimes necessary in recovering, and if we changed or removed headshot, the rest of the game would have to be changed as well. The punch on the bow should be removed entirely, seeing as the punch just makes archer more annoying to kill.

Assassin - I agree with Snowleak's post about how assassin doesn't need another nerf.

Chemist - I agree with matt's post and how the skilled chemists are very hard to kill, but it's not difficult to kill a regular chemist, and another nerf isn't necessary.

Dwarf - Just remove.

Elf - Is the class even necessary? It was a bandaid class from the start, and then after the nerf, the entire class became a joke.

Engineer - Remove the knockback from turret and pick. Nothing is more annoying than a turret's knockback.

Heavy - No change needed imo

Mage - I would suggest removing the knockback from the damage spell. The problem with mage is not spell spam, but it's mage's ability to keep and attack multiple enemies from a distance, all while healing itself.

Medic - Why have the webs broken by either team? Wouldn't this just eliminate the usefulness of webs if both teams can break them.

Necro - Why is changing the fence to wood a necessary change? And necro just needs a complete rework.

Ninja - Ninja capping is pretty OP, but the damage shouldn't be increased to ridiculous levels. I guess the pearl / flag thing would be a pretty effective concept against premature pearling.

Pyro - Eh, I would decrease the amount of damage the regular axe does and increase the amount of damage it does to a player on fire. It wouldn't be a ton of encouragement for players to use fns and the bow however.

Soldier - I think the mana is already reduced to a good level. It forces players to think about how they must use the wallclimb, and you have to get the most out of every right click to stay effective. Also, for the shifting mechanism, if you were shifting and wall climbing, would the rate of mana regained still be lower than the rate of mana used for the wallclimb?

 

Can I suggest another thing? For the whole server?

END. THE GOD FORSAKEN. ELITE "WEEK."

 

-I agree with your chemist idea tv.

-For the damage per tick while holding that flag, I'd say for the max damage it can give you, it should stop at 5. Having it completely drain your health is a bit overkill in my opinion. If implemented, is there a way to remember the amount of damage it gave you last time before you dropped the flag? Cause then a player can easily drop it and refresh the amount of damage and make it start back at the minimum output of damage. (In my opinion, I'd keep all the less armored classes with its original damage by the flag and have this idea only effective with the more armored ones.) It's also a good way to end a game with a stalemate.
-Add-On- Is it possible for it to recognize that you have no steak left? If so, then you can make it so it won't deal damage to the flag holder, when having no steak, thus eliminating the concept that the flag would kill you, rather than the opponent's defense daring to do it themselves.

-My personal idea-
Medic: Reduce its steak to 4 since it has the ability to regenerate health. 5 steaks is a bit too much for a support class, especially with all its perks.

 

- Ninja should take like 3 damage when it has the flag in its inventory instead of the normal 2, this will allow only 2 pearls with 1 tick of poison (if they don't receive any other damage), instead, of 3 which is usually enough to get to spawn and switch classes which is cheap and annoying.

- Dwarf should have a cap and not be immune to fire and potions because right now chemist can practically get 1 hit killed because of its low armor and its main weapon being potions which dwarves are immune to.

- The pyro thing is a good idea because I sometimes miss click and it's annoying. It shouldn't change much gameplay wise, so I don't see why not.

- And my other opinions were already stated.

Thanks @Quarrelt!!

 

With medic I feel like it can be too OP and as you said "it can completely stall a round", because it has no vulnerability if it is blocking the entire time and another medic is healing it. A lot of the time the game ends up in a stalemate and extremely boring. Possibly not taking AS MUCH damage from pyro as other classes, but not completely immune.

 

Here's my thoughts on the questions you're still interested

1.Ninja| Eggs: I think that reducing it to 7 or 5 wouldn't hurt, but give it then more sword damage to compensate for that then (increase to sharp V)

2.Pyro| Frenzy: unecessary, just let go of an arrow instead of switching to 1 lol

3.Ninja | Capping: Leave ninja alone already. I get it you and a lot of staff members main classes that would suck playing against a ninja. You've nerfed 414 and invis delay, you nerfed its sword dmg, is it really necessary to get rid of ninja's most amazing use?

4. Medic |Health: Absolutely. Double regen but 3 steak, maybe possibly turn off regen for combat and add speed I to compensate for the loss of tankiness. Medic should be a supportive class, not a capping class.

5. Dwarf |Leveling/Immunity: For now the best you could do is put the level cap to 10 and remove immunity to fire resistance and potions

 

The only problem with making dwarves vulnerable to potions is that it makes chemist capping easier. Just throw down a bunch of heals with an occasional damage and you can get in-and-out with the flag much easier.

 

And this changes gameplay in which way? Matches dont have dwarves either :[

 

Make ninja unable to grab flag if enderpearl is out of inventory, completely destroys prem and ghost capping, also make it have to reveal itself to recover flag so it doesnt ghost recover. Thats all

 

1. I don't think a reduction / cooldown implementation on eggs is necessary unless eggs themselves could regen naturally. Yes, egg spam can be annoying to play against, but in reality, the ninja only has 10 eggs, and it's up to the ninja how to use them effectively. Spamming a bunch of eggs against a person may be effective once, but when you escape, you're left with close to no eggs left.

2. Eh, I don't think it should change to a double click just because people accidentally trigger it. The player should learn to adapt to the new play style, and the double click might just hamper a pyro more than help it.

3. I don't really have a good answer for this.

4. What do you mean by 'regen' compared to medic's normal regen? And by many less steaks, do you mean like 2-1?

5. In my opinion, dwarf should no longer be able to block headshots, and the potion / fire immunity should be removed. A level cap would always work as a temporary fix, but maybe switch the dwarf's sword for an axe. That way dwarfs are easier to kill with an assassin.

 

pls no. eggs are like the only way i'm able to get combos as an EU ninja lol

 

is the glitch where medic can't heal a person if they have regen from a chemist still a thing or

 

the medic thing, i feel like if it had 3 steaks less but faster regen, that wouldnt be really good against a ninja or two; but then again, medic shouldnt be as tanky, so im all for it.

 

I agree with boom on that^^

 

make it they have to be out of vis for 1.5-3 seconds as well

 

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rip my assassin tweak. Well, I'm gonna suggest something else, then.

Engineer | Teleporter: Flag carriers cannot go through teleporters. This doesn't need an explanation.

Make it so the ninja has to be visible for 2 seconds before it's able to recover.

Heavy: Heavy should get a really, really small nerf: Heavy gains 2,5 seconds of Slowness I when it hits an enemy twice. This will make it so a buffed heavy can't completely annihiliate an entire enemy flagroom without repercussions, while not completely defeating the purpose of playing Heavy without buffs.
This change should be implemented since a lot of classes that used to be able to fight back a Heavy now can't and can get destroyed by a good enough Heavy.

Fashionista: Rework it...Guys stop laughing. I'm serious!

 

Most ninjas arent even out of invis within 2 seconds :[[