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Ctf staff applications

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by featherpaw, Jul 16, 2017.

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Should CTF staff applications be opened again?

  1. Yes (+1)

  2. Maybe with improvements (+-0, please explain)

  3. No (-1, please explain)

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  1. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    This is more just a general curiosity then a real call for action, but there are quite a few good candidates for ctf staff that are shut out of applying at all for 2 reasons.
    • The staff app prefix for ctf is closed, meaning they aren't accepting ctf staff.
    • Most ctf players that are good candidates are dedicated to ctf and, therefore, have no real experience with the other servers, meaning they'd be lacking in activity if they applied for a different server.
    Now this has made me curious. Why are ctf apps closed? The only thing I can think of being a reason for this is that there are too many qualified people that could be accepted for ctf.

    However, when a jmod becomes a mod, yes they're still a part of that server, but mods are much more versatile and will spend equal amounts of time on many servers anyway. At mod level, the server they're a part of becomes less noticeable and less important, unless they're headed for smod.

    Because of this, I don't understand why ctf apps are closed. Having more staff, even for one server, is good if they become mods because by then they'll be spending time catching hackers on all of brawl's servers.

    The idea of disallowing people to apply because of "too many staff for that server" seems counterintuitive since most would agree that we're in need of staff in general.

    Could anyone give any other reason for keeping ctf apps closed that is beneficial to the server? I'm not expecting change or for people to even listen to this, but curiosity has finally gotten the better of me and I've been thinking of making this thread for a long time. I've thought long and hard of counter arguments for why ctf should remain closed, but other than the reason I stated above and the whole "because why not" argument, I don't see much need for people to have to wait to apply to help the server.

    So tl:dr I see no reason for ctf staff apps to be closed, considering we need staff (as both community members and staff have said many times) and people that have applied for servers other than ctf have gotten accepted for ctf regardless.
     
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  2. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    Personally, I'd like to see staff applications reopened. (Not only so I could apply) As stated above, there are plenty of qualified people, who are more than willing to help out the server.
     
  3. Grenzo

    Grenzo Well-Known Member

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    Umm, I totally did not scream in joy in real life.......................

    Anyways... I do believe this prefix and spot should be re-opened in staff applications.
    (Not so I can apply, well maybe.) But in general, there isn't really much staff in CTF.
    Usually they only come on when a player PM's them or spams /report.
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  4. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    So you didn't think that there could already be too many mods?

    Don't want to be rude but 2/3 of the current CTF staff team are either inactive, not involved with the community and don't help moderate at all. I think we should scrap the current CTF moderators except maybe 2-3 and get better people to apply.
     
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  5. GalaThundR

    GalaThundR Mcpvp Veteran

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    Xelia got demoted so I don't see the harm in accepting atleast 1 new member for ctf staff.
     
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  6. ACE_BLUE2

    ACE_BLUE2 Sup'

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    I never understood the whole, having too many moderators thing. Wouldn't having more mods mean more security for the server? If a person is qualified for the position, the number of mods around already shouldn't hamper the chances of a completely qualified applicant.
     
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  7. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    I'm voting 0, which may surprise some. I feel that the problem isn't the number of staff, but more where these staff members are based. CTF has the joint largest staff team on brawl, and yet for hours in the day, there just aren't mods online. This is because every moderator aside from Nohox lives on an American timezone (and he doesn't come in-game anyway). This means we have more than enough moderators to cover American times, but none on European. I'd like to see no overall increase in the number of staff on CTF, but instead a dedicated CTF team who can cover all hours of the day, so that whenever you go on there's a mod who you could potentially contact if something bad were to happen.

    If there was a qualified EU candidate right now who actually wanted to do the job, then I'd be more open to that possibility. Fact is, there isn't so I'm not.
     
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  8. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    I agree with this for the most part (and thank you giving an explanation as to why you voted +-0 instead of just voting). However, my opinion differs from yours in that I don't believe even American timezones are covered. I don't know if it's because there are not enough mods available, but the issue of there not being enough mods to cover the amount of reports has been mentioned in my timezone just as much as others. I agree that I'd like to see more mods for the EU timezone, but I'd also like to point out that just because someone is in an American timezone that doesn't mean they wouldn't be active outside of their own timezone as well.
     
  9. oFire

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    It's sort of a too many cooks spoil the broth thing in my opinion. Why have more staff than you need? It would be hard for them to all do their job.
     
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  10. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    Which I could agree with, if not for the fact that both staff and regular community members alike have said we need more staff to handle the amount of reports that come in.
     
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  11. Lewka

    Lewka Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to see the staff applications open, but restricted to EU/AU players only. CTF has more than plenty US moderators, now it needs more mods who are available in more EU friendly times
     
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    Yes to a new ctf mod, if it's an eu based one.
    Xelia_ was one of the 2 EU ctf mods and was demoted, would only make sense to me if it would be an EU mod.

    @_featherpaw_ US timezones are technically covered, if the mods would be on during that time, which is not something they have to, allow them to have a life outside of CTF.
    I would rather see someone be mod on a EU timezone to use more of the Spreadsheet, most matches aren't played before 1pm EST due to:
    - no moderator awake before that
    - no teams organising matches because ^

    I have recently spoken to a few ctf mods and I can generally say they all would like to see an active EU CTF mod on the field, but there is no suitable candidate that really stands out.

    You have a point here but in my opinion, the new mod should be located in the EU timezones and not the US.
     
  13. Deppuccino

    Deppuccino Well-Known Member

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    EU mod?
    @fridge 4 mod fridge 4 admin fridge 4 owner
    fridge best EU
    fridge best ctf player
    fridge best everything
     
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  14. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    They have a job to moderate, I've not seen some mods for months and I'm on till 5-6est sometimes. If they don't have the time they should resign and let more capable and active players take their place.
     
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  15. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Yes, they should be, but there aren't many qualified people that we could think ontop of our heads. Maybe a few, but none of them show interest in moderating the server. We need another EU mod, and if they were to open then it would be heavily restricted to US candidates. Unless they are extremely qualified.
     
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    Everyone is talking about US and EU timezones.
    But I believe @_featherpaw_ made this thread because we need US Mods.
    Or else why would he make this thread?
    The goal of this thread is to hear your opinions and maybe re-open spots for CTF on Staff applications.
    But like @JayOG said, and a couple more people, we do indeed need another EU Moderator.
     
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  17. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    Featherpaw is a girl, and her goal was to be able to get an opinion from the community on staff apps for ctf opening again.
     
  18. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    How I see it is this: We need (an) EU CTF mod(s). I won't deny that. There's a whole block of time where there's no CTF mod available; whether that's to ref matches or just to be online. Like Chaos said, I'd be alright with opening up applications if there was a qualified EU candidate. There really isn't, though.
     
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  19. redslime

    redslime Lead Developer

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    ref rank
     
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  20. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    In my opinion, the ref rank is a great idea. I'd say we'd just need to control who has the rank (i.e. hand select a few players).
     
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