bringing up depression in game is pointless, and degrades our most important human right, life

Personally if someone brings it up because they really need help that's fine, but if they continue to mention it over and over again that's when I'll begin to ignore them. Once someone repeats it a lot of times, I'll assume that they're doing it just for attention. **** those guys

 

This is completely idealistic and unrealistic in every aspect. Realistically, you can't expect immature people to be mature, as much as you enforce rules and condemn toxic players, they will always keep coming in and be what they tend to do, troll.

Yes, every human escapes reality by playing this blessed game, kinda why its called entertainment. Some people who may be depressed may feel the need to talk to people about his depression, but you are kidding yourself if you think anyones sane enough to completely open about their depression in a public chat when there are, like I said, immature and obnoxious players who can possibly attack that player to an even more personal level. All the players in the game are trying to escape reality and entertain themselves, and seeing an attention seeker talking about their own "problems" (or rather the people who are fake depressed) in the public chat is the least of their interest.

People dramatize everything way too much, especially teens which is the age group of the majority of the playerbase. How dare someone hurt my feelings!

This does NOT mean there arent depressed players in the community, just those that truly are depressed should talk to people and definitely should be encouraged to seek help, but someone who as mattm1vp said , repeatedly brings up their problems would be pretty much just an attention seeker.

 

You talk about freedom of speech to not lock the thread but is denying people from talking about depression not a violation of your freedom of speech? I understand typing publicly in a public Minecraft chat that you can /ignore people, and deletes itself to the public after you simply log off is a lot different than posting about it in a public forum accessible to anyone in the world.

 

I feel bad even if this is true.

 

if people constantly need attention they do not have depression, they have an insecurity of not being relevant. A depressed person wouldn't mind attention sure but he wouldn't go out of his way to constantly looking for attention. Depressed people usually are less energetic and less enthusiastic about everyone and everything, so to suggest that they'd actually be energetic enough to constantly seek attention whilst also contemplating through thoughts like suicide and abandoning people in order to be alone is completely contradictory.

 

As for the thread, while I think it passes an important message, it’s much to say making it a reportable offense.

While it’s pointless, taking your heavy personal drama in a game where you are supposed to have fun with other people, this doesn’t mean you can’t do it. For some cases, mostly for light ones, it might help having someone to talk to. One thing I suggest is not taking anything to the Global, if you want to talk better do it with a close friend, someone who can understand and help you.

I don’t say you shouldn’t do it but it’s most preferable not to do it. Redboo well-stated that there are minors hearing all the pessimist things coming through conversations about depression and similar topics.

The community isn’t an audience for sad stories, everyone comes here for entertainment and fun. Everything said about the same topic changes the mood of the community.
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I can agree, that’s a common symptom, mentally ill people seek for attention. People who feel bad too while not necessarily being mentally ill seek for attention too. You should help these people not for the reasons they state, but because they are attention seeking and there’s always something behind that.

They need someone who can understand them, someone who they can free up on. Such people though, aren’t often found in the community (throwback to my second paragraph). They ought to talk with a friend, a family member (that’s most unlikely because most bad things happen within family members), or like suggested by some here a therapists.
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My next point is about understanding.

We should approach people like this with understanding, preferably talking to them privately, and of course not by joking around with them.
In more serious instances such as self harming we should do more of an effort by again talking to them privately and make them feel they have someone to talk to. If there’s a crowd of people going against the player as if it’s all about attention seeking we must do quick to calm it down because it’s highly possible that it offends the player further more.

I don’t know what more,
Nick

 

A lot of people with depression post it over the internet because they can't find the help they need in real life. A lot of times it's serious, and @redboo123 who the hell are you to tell people to keep quiet? Several people I know have decided to hang themselves because they couldn't get the help they needed and you're here encouraging that? You're a 12 year old twat that obviously doesn't understand how the world works. Please get some help.

Merry Christmas.

 

As someone who has gone to see someone to deal with the struggles of life (I won't make a big scene about the details) it's pretty obvious to see someone who is seeking attention, and someone who is completely serious. Someone who is serious generally won't make a scene, or go around "parading" what's wrong with them. In fact, it'd be a miracle if they told anyone about their issues. Seeking attention from people in chat is shameful. I do think any claim of depression or suicide should be taken seriously, but as stated above Brawl isn't a therapist, and talking about things like this in the all chat disrupts gameplay.

In short, if someone needs to reach out, they should pm someone or more importantly, talk to someone irl.

 

This summarizes my points.

 

oof

agree

 

Lmao, I can agree

Funny thing is, and off-topic aswell, is that the new gen of economist students moves on to live abroad and contribute to that country’s economy.
Fresh example my uncle.

 

I find it really important that people come forward if they have depression. It is really important that these people get the help they need. People need to act different to people with depression, because it is a real decease. A lot of people suffer from it. There are countless of things that could have happened in someone's life that lead to depression.

Now this might come as a shock, especially to you, @SnowCool21 .

People should not continually complain about it. Saying that you are depressed and that you want to kill yourself does not only annoy other people, it also makes everyone around you depressed.
It does not make you feel better at all, because the feeling of being depressed will always be on your mind. People will also get annoyed by it at some point and will ask you to stop. Most depressed people will think everyone hates them and it will make them feel unwanted.

You will feel worse -> complain more -> deny every help -> people will get mad -> you will feel worse.

It's a loop.



We should not punish for it, but depressed people also shouldn't complain every 20 seconds.
I've seen people who got mad because I said hi and not 'hi name'.

I don't know how you can help people with depression because they tend to be stubborn. Just have respect for them.

If you have depression, do not involve too many people, please. They have no clue how to help and you'll most likely feels worse or you'll get hurt. Get professional help.

 

Referring back to my original post, instead of bluntly punishing individuals with a warning ingame if they talk about self-harm (which I think could really negatively affect others, esp young ones, basically by just bringing such an idea in their head which they might then see as a totally plausible solution to problems), I think staff should take it upon themselves to stop such statements from being said in chat through another means...

Like what others have mentioned, for it to be at least required by staff to clarify the situation (to know if the person is actually depressed, seeking attention, or joking) noting the severity of such statements (if they are not actually depressed, then to strictly and kindly tell them to stop and to explain why - if the player continues then an actual warning is justified), and if the staff member cannot give enough help to know that the person is OK, then to refer professional help through a link and phone number to that person.
(I think it'd be best for others to seek staff help in dealing with this kind of situation so that the person knows with whatever is their actual intention that expressing depression through self-harm is a serious case and not a joking matter which -hypothetically based on my opinion- could lead to ingame punishments.)

 

hi I haven't made a long post in a while so I will now

I think this falls under what would be considered spam. If you've got a guy just mentioning that they are depressed or whatever in chat, as a one time thing, then I don't see why it'd be an issue. However as @Jul13n said, if someone is constantly talking about their depression or just being a nuisance then I think it's reasonable to politely warn them about the effect their actions may be having on others, and if they continue kick or mute.

Imo Tom you're taking this the wrong way. As someone who is frequently depressed I agree with most of this thread. No one wants to hear about how I'm sad, lonely, or bored 24/7 - which is what I think this thread is talking about -- and they shouldn't have to. That's why, if I am depressed, I talk to the handful of people who I feel comfortable having that conversation with.

This is a little blunt but it's completely true. Most people do not care about you and that's just how it is. In game CTF is not the place for in depth (nor not) discussions about heavy topics like depression. Maybe one or two people will be genuinely concerned, but most people will either 1) be annoyed, 2) not care, or 3) troll. All that does is create conflict which, while entertaining, is not something that should be encouraged.

tl;dr: Don't be afraid to ask for help. But don't push your sadness/loneliness/angst on everyone else, we've all been there before. People play Minecraft for fun, not to support you. Talk it out in the appropriate place and time, with people who actually give a damn. Get better and move on

 

For those of you struggling with depression, here is a list of helplines sorted by region. Talk to family, close friends and people you trust.

I do agree with the post but I feel like it could have been put better. Depression (and mental illness in general) has been getting a lot more attention recently, and while that's great, it does mean that some people who might just be feeling a bit bummed out with school or work can assume that they've got a full-blown case of depression. It's often not at all malicious but it does seriously undermine people who really are suffering. Case in point: this thread.

If you think that applies to you, please think seriously about talking to people you know before you send it out to the void of the internet. Alternatively, if you see something you're not sure of in chat, take it seriously but be sure to inform them of the potential harm it can cause.

 

If you are depressed and talking to people, try to listen what they say too. Don't make it a one sided conversation. You probably have tunnel vision when you are depressed. Other (close) people probably know the truth from the other side.

 

So, I really wanted to stay off this thread for many reasons, one because of the general stupidity in a lot of the arguments here, but also of the ignorance. That being said, I will be the first to admit that CTF chat can be cancerous and annoying. I am also an individual, however, and therefore can make decisions myself. If you don't like what you see in chat. Ignore it, report it, or shut the **** up and move on.

I even made a video for the less tech inclined individuals...

 

I think you missed the whole point..

The thread and the conversation going on here is about chatting about depression in-game.