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False Bans Are A Serious Problem

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Sayan, Jan 29, 2018.

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  1. Sayan

    Sayan Well-Known Member

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    This thread will be about both my problems with the brawl staff and the general issues with brawls ban and appeal systems. My motivation for writing this is mainly my reputation in the community as a cheater and the fact that I’m currently banned.

    I’ll start out with this, over a period of about 9 months, (late 2016 - June 2017 ban wipe) I became one of the best pvpers on the server because I was autoclicking. I never used an actual client. After the ban wipe I knew I couldn’t keep autoclicking on brawl or I would be rebanned. I stopped autoclicking and have been working on pvping without one since then. I’m definitely better at the game today than I am back when I autoclicked. I think it’s important to note that now I play on servers with all the best anticheats (Badlion, Arcane, Velt, MMC, Zonix, Valux, Lounge) and I am only banned on brawl. On to more relevant information.

    The appeal system does not work. If a player says that they are falsely banned, their appeal will be denied. Even if they included a video of them not hacking, the appeal could still get denied. A few months ago I was banned on the account Insult and my appeal was denied by @TheZombieKat, even with the video showing that I was not hacking. I had to send a group pm to all the smods to get the account unbanned. The main suggestion I have is not letting the mod that banned the player deal with their appeal. Mods don’t want false bans on their record and are much more likely to deny appeals for their own bans. Other than that, if there is a chance that the banned player is legit they have to be unbanned. Guilty until proven innocent is asking for false bans.

    If a mod gets comboed by a player they do not know, that player will get banned. Chances are that player is not recording, and they will stay perm banned. I’m not far above average on a potpvp server. None of the thousands of players that are better than me can play on brawl without getting banned. Mods need to get their **** together and learn to tell the difference between a really good player and a cheater. More importantly, mods need to realize that at a certain point it is impossible to make a distinction between the two. It is impossible to tell if a player had good aim or is using aim assist by watching them fight. The only way to detect something like that is with a recording of their perspective, a strong anticheat, or a screenshare. Brawl Mods think they’re some gifted minecraft cheat detectors when they can’t tell the difference between an average potpvp player and a closet cheater.

    And it’s finally time for the videos. 10 recorded false bans by multiple mods for a variety of reasons. Shout out to Kevshadowslayer for banning one of the accounts for Reach / Toggled after comboing me. Shout out to Jayog for banning me for Aimbot // KB Modifiers when my aim was painfully bad. Shout out to the idiot that banned me for speed hacking when I was not speed hacking. Last but not least Purest for the kill aura after a minute in the lobby.

    Knockback Modifiers / Auto Clicker (lnsult)


    Hacked Client: Speed (ZenNeophyte)


    Hacked Client: Reach (clawson2002)


    Hacked Client: Reach / Toggle (XxberniexX)


    Hacked Client: Reach (lordofthegoy)


    Hacked Client: Reach (theepicgamer19)


    Hacked Client: Aim - assist (trademarkcraft)


    Hacked Client: Reach (Broekzakje)


    Hacked Client: Aimbot // KB Modifiers (XRickaxe)


    Hacked Client Kill Aura (Tyron_)


    5 Reach, 2 KB Mods, 2 Aim, Kill Aura, Autoclicking, Speed.
    4 kev, 2 gam, 1 Jayog, 1 DaddyPurest, 1 zombiekat

    I have accounts banned for KB Modifiers / AimAssist and Aim Assist / Reach. This is proof that I can reproduce those hits and movements when I am clearly not cheating.

    This thread is a discussion of a problem, don't flame and get it locked.

    @chickenputty Fix your staff team.

    @b0squet @Miskey @kevshadowslayer @wintergreen3 @TheZombieKat @Nohox @gamren @JAYGT @DaddyPurest
     
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  2. Nakatago

    Nakatago Well-Known Member

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    Blatant cheater. Stupid idot.

    Also what pack is that
     
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  3. kamil302

    kamil302 Well-Known Member

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    stop being salty, if you wasn't hacking you wouldn't have gotten banned :smile:
     
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    CommunistBelgian Well-Known Member

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    I think the most important question is to ask why you would want to hack on minecraft in the first place.

    I don't entirely agree with this whole thing and especially not with the way you composed it. You are calling out Staff in their face, which could've been in a more kind way than this. Apart from that you stick to your opinion I'll stick
     
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  5. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    I haven't been false banned, so I guess "I don't know the struggle"
     
  6. Raging_

    Raging_ Well-Known Member

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    Easiest fix would be to implement screensharing
     
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  7. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    If this turns into a screen share discussion it'll probably get locked tbh
     
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  8. Raging_

    Raging_ Well-Known Member

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    Not trying to start anything but I mean it's definitely the easiest way to not false ban people, granted people could just delete their ghost clients before a SS
     
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  9. minecraftnoob999

    minecraftnoob999 Well-Known Member

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    Shut up raging
     
  10. Squidward

    Squidward BEST WARZ SMOD NO KAPPA (ง'̀-'́)ง

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    You act as if I haven't gotten false banned, clearly you got banned for cheating various occasions. A staff team isn't always judged on people making false bans, thats always only a part of how to judge a staff team. These individual moderators you @ have done nothing wrong but make a simple misjudgement. Yet you can always hack in your POV without people knowing, so it isn't always too surprising when one of your accounts get banned.

    The speed one was weird though :confused:
     
  11. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    lol dont cheat
     
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  12. Pizze

    Pizze Well-Known Member

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    LOL its minecraft get over it
     
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  13. BrandinoB

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    Hacked Client: Reach (Broekzakje)

    I knew I liked that kid :wink:

    I remember thinking a couple of those accounts I thought looked strange/sketchy, might have reported 1-2 just to be sure, but tbh I think it's a combination of heavy not taking much knockback (which I have repeatedly *****ed about sometimes lel), brawls knockback being weird, and decent aim/strange ping.

    Obviously only you know at this point if you actually hack, but from what I've experienced I have both comboed you and been destroyed by you soooooo Imma vote clean boi. Maybe try playing other classes, see if you get the same results. I realize that not many other classes are as good for pvp as heavy is, but yknow. Just as a test.

    This was our gapple 1v1 if that helps, we both got some good combo's (I ended up failing at gappling lel) but it looked completely fine to me
     
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  14. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    i agree. demote kev, filthy falsebanner. he isnt even from pennsylvania :frowning: :frowning: :hilarious:
     
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  15. Daveeeeeeeee

    Daveeeeeeeee Well-Known Member

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    LOL thanks for the input!
     
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    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    edge
     
  17. kamil302

    kamil302 Well-Known Member

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    This is the last place I'd expect to see a rating farm :v
     
  18. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    Controversial threads are the best for rating farms :happy:
     
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  19. kamil302

    kamil302 Well-Known Member

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    f uck off you random dont quote me
     
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    Lekosa1 mineman

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    no u
     
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