Warzs Current State

So far, despite several requests, no-body has given a single specific case of a player who deserves to be unbanned. I cannot address people's concerns if you are being uncooperative. If there are so many permbanned players that deserve to be unbanned that a ban wipe is necessary, I would have thought at least 1 person could have been named so far.

If there are any questions that I have not given a direct answer to, please repost the question. So far I am getting a lot of "you're not answering our questions", but I am not getting any questions.

@W81 @Bxnking @tchuckraider @JayOG @Fets

I have made my thoughts on /tpyes macros here and I have attempted to get this rule changed. @Ritzy has also tried to get this rule changed.

I cannot just implement whatever protocol change I like and you know that. You are directing your flame at the wrong person.

When I was permbanned from the forums back in 2015, I did not get any help from staff members when I was trying to get unbanned. Most of my PMs would be ignored - and when I was unbanned, an admin+ at the time who is still on the staff team said "Unbanned - don't be a f*ggot anymore" to me.

I am currently in the process of helping a permbanned player write his appeal to make a strong case for him getting unbanned. This is far better treatment than I had ever seen players being given back in 2015-17.

Do you have any specific cases of someone who is not getting proper treatment?

The point of permanently banning someone is to make them quit. We do not permanently ban anyone who we want playing our server.

If you get banned for hacking 3 times on almost any other server out there, you will not ever be allowed back on the server. There are players on Hypixel who have been banned 5 years ago and they are still not allowed to be unbanned. And this sort of policy is typically favoured by it's players. Only making players wait 6 months after they hack 3 times is far more lenient than most other servers.

Of course, there are some cases where this isn't true. In these cases, exceptions are made.

I agree with this. If we can prove that a permbanned player has only just started playing on an account that another player has frequently used in the past, making them wait 6 months before the accounts can be unbanned is insane. To change this, I will be proposing:

• Clearer rules regarding account sharing
• More leniency for those who share their accounts with a permbanned player:
  • 2 months of wait for players who have knowingly shared their account with a permbanned player.
  • 1 month of wait for players who have accidentally shared their account with a permbanned player - keep in mind, that account sharing at all is against the rules.
  • Longer wait times for repeat offenders. If someone frequently shares their accounts with permbanned players, their accounts will not be unbanned that easily.

While I won't be posting my protocol reform publicly (as I've said before, our protocol is private information), I will confirm whether or not this was in my reform. PM me in a month time (when the reform should be done and posted in staff chat) and I will confirm it.

For regular bans for hacking, we usually unban players after a month of them being banned. We also allow them to alt their ban, so players can come back 30 seconds after being banned and can continue playing. After the 3rd offence, we ban players for 6 months. After the 3rd offence on Hypixel, you are banned forever. Doesn't matter how many years you go without alting, you will not be unbanned from Hypixel if you are banned for hacking 3 times - including bans from their anticheat.

 

Currently dealing with.

I cannot personally do anything about Nunya.

Currently dealing with.

Currently dealing with. He was granted an exception so he doesn't have to wait as long before he can be unbanned - and I'm looking further into his actions since his ban to see if he can be unbanned even sooner.

Triple has crossed the line when it comes to trying to get himself unbanned. He has harassed and borderline stalked a staff member in an attempt to get unbanned. His initial DoX ban was fairly minor compared to other permbannable offences, but his constant alting and lying to staff members makes it very difficult to trust him again. Also, unlike other permbanned players, Triple frequently hacked while he was alting - and coincidentally only stopped alting once we started blocking VPNs.

I'm all for granting exceptions for players who deserve it, but Triple has constantly dug himself deeper and deeper and it is now looking like he will not be unbanned for the foreseeable future.

I do not recall being told about these players before. Please PM me with info as to why they should be given an exception. Alternatively, please ask these permbanned players to submit an appeal explaining why they should be given an exception, and I will look into their cases.

I cannot guarantee that all players here will be given exceptions - I can't even guarantee that I'll try to get them exceptions. However, I will do everything I can to ensure that they're dealt with fairly. I still think 6 months is a reasonable amount of time to wait, as getting banned for hacking 3 times is very excessive rule violating - however, it is a substantial amount of time and it is important these players are treated fairly.

Still awaiting specific concerns/questions/players who deserve to be unbanned from @W81, @JayOG and @Fets.

The issue of all the cheated WarZ loot could be addressed by wiping the accounts of permbanned players when they are unbanned (with some exceptions being put in place). We don't currently wipe loot of permbanned players, but this can change if we ever were to do a ban wipe again.

 

Please can you post their IGNs, and why they deserve to be given an exception? I'll look into them too.

Still waiting on specific concerns, questions and players that deserve to be unbanned from @W81, @JayOG and @Fets.

Also, @Warrey, please can you PM me (or post here) the full IGNs of Tyler, Anonym and Anniepro2, as well as the reason why they should be given an exception.

 

Kasra/gangthat - a name that has been mentioned in this thread - has been unbanned today. Protocol would not normally allow this case to happen, however we have made an exception due to the circumstances around this ban. These circumstances are very uncommon, so no changes to the protocol have been made. However, I have made it clear in a post in SMod chat that exceptions can be granted under exceptional circumstances, and potential cases should be brought up in SMod chat.

I have handled another appeal by another player mentioned in this thread. After a discussion with an admin+, it has been decided an exception will not be given. I am also looking into a third appeal made by a player who's name was mentioned here, but it has not been resolved yet.

I am currently away on a week-long training course, which I am required to pass to advance in my job. Obviously this takes priority over handling appeals and responding to this thread - so my responses here may be delayed. I may also miss posts here. If there are any posts here that aren't responded to by Sunday, please PM me with a link and I will respond.

I have read what you posted and have responded to it. If my response is insufficient, then please explain why.

It is Eil's job to manage permbans, not mine. My job is to make sure staff are handling their appeals correctly. I am not failing to meet any responsibility I have by not knowing the names and IGNs of permbanned players, as it is not my job to do so.

I am currently doing something that I am not at all required to do based on my responsibility on Brawl, so I will need assistance when it comes to the specifics. If this is unacceptable, then the only realistic alternative is for me to ignore this thread, which obviously is not a better solution.

Thank you.

444666 has recently appealed, but it has been denied. This is his second permban, and he has not gone 6 months without alting. He was asked to provide a reason why he should be given an exception, and the reasoning provided was deemed insufficient.

I cannot find an appeal within the last month submitted by AnniePro2 (this is either because he hasn't appealed in this time, or he appealed for a different account). Please ask him to resubmit an appeal, and I will look into his case.

CraftyChild has brought up his case in this thread, so I will respond directly to him.

Please add me on Discord so I can discuss this further. This is because we do not typically discuss ongoing appeals publicly.

Please add me on Discord and PM me the names of your accounts that are currently unbanned.