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Idea Weapon Switch Time: An Mc-WarZ Game Changer

Discussion in 'MC-WarZ' started by darthnall, Jun 22, 2014.

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Should "weapon switch time" be added to Mc-WarZ

Poll closed Jun 29, 2014.
  1. Yes, I believe that "weapon switch time" should be implemented into Mc-WarZ

    37.5%
  2. I believe that "weapon switch time" could be plausible, but not without: [Explanation]

    12.5%
  3. No, I do not believe that "weapon switch time" should be implemented into Mc-WarZ

    50.0%
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  1. Greedy_Bee

    Greedy_Bee Well-Known Member

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    I'll give you one reason why the idea will never get trhough: The Community.
    Let me put it in mc-war terms, when we all hated the M4A1, and I still do, and all the lower ranks had what was, granted, an O.P gun, it got nerfed. The Isolator on the other hand, has never, ever, ever been nerfed, because the ideas get shot down so fast that the owner can't even reply.
    No one in the community wants their precious combos removed, and to be honest, I don't either, you have any, any idea how long fights would go on? I can kill a half with sugar and tier 4 that's spamming food like a mofo, easily with a combo, i'm sorry but WarZ isn't BO2, were not bullet sponges.
     
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  2. Paul

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    Simple solution to that would be buff the damage guns deal, but then disable combos with a delay, or atleast render them useless. But, as you said, the community wouldn't be so happy because they have to deal with such a drastic change. If this were WarZ late last summer, almost no one would mind about this change.

    Only reason why it's such a big deal is because it completely changes the style of gameplay for a lot of players.
     
  3. C9_Mango

    C9_Mango Well-Known Member

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    See, this suggestion has it's upsides...

    Aaaand it's downsides.

    A buffed barret would 1 shot 3/4 d. No. Please. God. No.

    A buffed ak would kill a full d in under 3 seconds with head shots... That doesn't work either.

    A buffed spas would 1 shot full iron. This wouldn't be too bad, except for the fact that it is pretty common, and only uses 1 shot every like, 2 seconds, giving it a ton of ammo.

    I wish we could find a way to buff armor in an exponential way. For example, the difference for each tier of armor wouldn't be the same. This would allow us to choose a protection value to best fit the new damage, making diamond worth more, but also guns.Then we could safely increase damage slightly, and add a delay.

    The reason I dislike this suggestion is because armor is both too weak, and too strong. Say you are 2v1ing a full diamond and full iron. With this suggestion, the full iron is an easy kill. 1 barret shot to the head and they are done. Now, on the other hand, as long as the full diamond is smart, they can continuously camp away from you. That way, if you decide to rush, they have a much bigger advantage. Take for example the "Garage" things in the new map. (Nether, I believe.) All the full d needs to do is camp and as soon as the rusher's head shows, ak spray will ensure them the victory, because you can legitimately do nothing. Even if you are @LuckyPop or @nicolecacola you cannot change the fact that in a battle of ak spam, the higher armored enemy will win.

    Combos on the other hand allow players to find ways to counteract that. It adds an experimental factor to the game, always finding new combos, and what works and what doesn't. So, if this situation of a full d camping a ladder does occur, the rusher is able to combo and kill the camper.

    This is why I believe combos should stay, but other things should be changed.
     
  4. LuckyPop

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    Said it all
     
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  5. LordMalacath

    LordMalacath Active Member

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    Why do all these players who can't combo make these pointless threads trying to ruin warz, who cares if your a hero or not, that has nothing to do with taking out combos and making this game no fun. Combos add more variety to this game and give it more purpose as to just spamming an auto etc, combos I would have to say are a part if warz and should NOT be removed. If you don't like how warz gameplay is and keep complaint about how it isn't like dayz etc, then why don't you go play dayz if you like it so much?
     
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  6. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I was wondering the results of that survey you held. The one where you asked everyone that made these threads if they could combo it not. I can combo and I hate combos. They ruin this game and make it unrealistic. The game would still be fun without combos. People who just spam combo and never aim will be upset.
     
  7. LordMalacath

    LordMalacath Active Member

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    Combos take a lot of aim because every aspect of a combo is important as if you miss one gun that could mean you die or take more damage. And if your going to talk about realistic or whatnot, you must remember this is zombies, blocks, eating cans of food in than a second, and surviving countless bullet wounds after eating beans or pasta.
     
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  8. C9_Mango

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  9. bob8is8cool

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    Here we go again with not being realistic. Just because there are zombies doesn't mean we can make everyone fly and be godlike. It's a realistic zombie server. The blocks are just a part of Minecraft. As for having to aim in combos, I would say the opposite. If you have perfect accuracy with a Barrett, why don't you just head shot everyone? Instead you just mash your keyboard and fire all the time towards the general direction of the target.
     
  10. C9_Mango

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    Well, combos are harder than you think then. I 2v1ed 2 3/4 diamonds at air, and not a single m16 barret hit. I dropped one to 1 heart from a clip of ak, but he ran away. I then died from ak spam. I couldn't headshot them and kill them like you suggested, because they would not die, because they were 3/4 d. My point remains. With this idea implemented, there is a 1% chance I would win, odds I personally do not like.
     
  11. bob8is8cool

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    This just proves my point really. It's harder to aim with combos, so peopler rarely do aim. After that you say you died from an AK, no combo. Those players probably had fun killing you without combos either. You missed your headshot and probably some bullets because they were running away, so it's not your fault. With this idea implemented, it makes the game more realistic. It's a 2v1. They have two guns shooting at you and you have one guns shooting at them two. It's just logically they should win.
     
  12. LordMalacath

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    So you want to make it harder to win fights when the odds are against you? No thank you I do not want 2+ Ak47s being sprayed at me.the faster they can be eliminated the better. Warz shouldn't be power in teams. It's should be power in the players and how much skill they have, just like it is now. It is fun to clutch 2, 3, 4 v 1s and win. If this no combo is added then warz would be just huge teams with only auto guns in their inventorys. You would basically kill the barret and spas...
     
  13. bob8is8cool

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    I agree it is fun to clutch things. I did it the other day with a simple spas msr combo. It wasn't fair at all. One rushed me and I shot msr, spas dead. Same with the other one. If I only had one gun, they would've won, and they should have too. They outnumbered me so I should have died.
     
  14. C9_Mango

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    1. I did aim, I knew I would have no chance without it.
    2. Why is holding a trigger non stop to kill me fun? I would much rather play around with different guns to add a new level of excitement to the game.
    3. Just because they out gear me does not mean they have the instant win. With this suggestion, this may be true, but combos change that. It allows for clutches and makes the game more exciting. It adds a whole new level to gameplay.
    But this just means they are bad... If they were good, they would combo'ed back or at least stay their distance and kill you. It was completely fair. That is like saying "He could have used the ISO, but he didn't, so ISO should be removed cuz it's OP." They could have used combos, but they didn't. That doesn't mean you remove combos...


    This is starting to turn to flame. If you wish to continue discussion, let's keep it to PM.
     
  15. LordMalacath

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    But that is how warz should be the more skilled players wins, not power in numbers, who would want to log into warz 1-5 with no chance of surviving against a team, I hate marathoners (people who will just run and run and run and soon you will be at noob town still chasing them) so this is just asking for more. I do not always have my team on and it is fun to play warz solo, this would just ruin the aspect of playing alone.
     
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  16. HereCreepers

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    btw. p90 is not TO op because it burns so much ammo
     
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  17. knight_cambria

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    I killed a full diamond with an ump45 today like he was paper.

    COmbos are against the rules though, and are a bannable offense, I think. If I were the admin/owner i'd ban you right now.

    A barrett can already 1 shot full d, unless that guy killed me with some sort of hack.
     
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  18. C9_Mango

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    Uhhhh, you have no idea what you are talking about... Combos are allowed, just macros aren't. Please show me where you got this link. Also, barret cannot 1 shot full d... I have played this game long enough to know that for a fact. Please know your information before you say I'm incorrect. Now, if you could provide some backup, that would be useful...
     
  19. bob8is8cool

    bob8is8cool Well-Known Member

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    1. Thanks for backing me up

    2. Combos are allowed

    3. A M16 Barrett combo likely killed you.
     
  20. Usp45

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    To the people who hate combos:
    1. Don't rush, especially don't rush corners.
    2. Nobody says you can't use them too.
    3. It doesn't make the game more or less fun than TPs, I'd rather see those nerfed or armor buffed.
     
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