[Let's Talk CTF #2 1/2] Brawl Edition

I think ninja is mostly fine if you know hot to deal with it. If you just keep running and let it get free crits on you, you will die. If you fight ninjas, normally you win (as a stronger class). However, I think a tiny egg cool down would be great. I just think it's rather annoying when ninjas use all 10 eggs for knockback; I think eggs should be for only causing negative effects.

 

Maybe 2 seconds after 2 eggs? Or 1 seconds after 1 eggs

 

I was thinking 1.

 

after mcpvp diabled the ability to insta cap and the 414 abuse, ninja was perfectly balanced. But, i've never really experienced the egg knockback as bad, so i don't think this should change. but the rest is just fine atm.

 

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As a medic main, I'd love to see the same system with ninja's eggs as with medic's cobwebs.
So you can't throw more than five at once, but they'll regenerate.
Ninja is balanced imo, although its high damage output can be a little bit annoying when you have a higher ping or you get a lagspike of 500ms or so. But I think ninja doesn't need to be changed in a radical way after instacaps and 414ing are gone [:

 

How is a Ninja supposed to cap on a dwarf without knocking him back?

 

Go around him, @Sir_Inge

 

@Cher_ Well, a dwarf, unfortunately, can be a defense. It's extremely powerful and can one hit ninjas past a pretty low level. Ninja capping is very hard to do. One hit is all it takes to skew a ninja's plan.

 

ninjas can go invisible #chaosthoughtoftheday

 

As a pyro, ninjas are the worst, the eggs are a nightmare nowadays, they didn't use to be a problem. I assume the knockback on the eggs were buffed? Haven't played ctf for awhile.

 

Actually, as a pyro, you should be finding ninjas easier. They can't go invisible after attacking a target for about 1 second, or an eternity in CTF terms.

 

I think ninja has overpowered mobility as far as recovery goes.

 

From what I hear, they fixed ninja issues by only granting one pearl and giving it back once it landed.
That's fantastic and past that I can't recall any glaring issues with the class (as you can always come back and murder someone later, the capping is permanent for the current game).

Past that, good times to run around and slash at things.

 

The only striking issue with Ninja is the mobility, in my opinion. They're not impossible to defeat, even as archer, but when they can come back for a second try in under three seconds, eventually you'll get worn down. However, I don't really know of a way to fix that without severely nerfing it's recovery ability.

 

Agreed. If ninja can't wear people down, it can't recover. Isn't that the definition of recovery?

 

Completely agree

 

Personally, I think ninja is fine. I really don't have a problem with ANY classes to be honest, although getting attacked by a Mage is annoying, but that's just me.