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Why exactly can't we have wool?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Sir_Inge, Jun 17, 2015.

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  1. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    Will looks like a flag more then banner? No..
     
  2. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Banners look like... well, banners. IDK if you've ever played capture the flag in gym class, but flags are normally blue/red rags or something. AKA: Wool looks more accurate.
     
  3. Serine1002

    Serine1002 A shadow in the night

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    Banners look like actual flags. Enough said.
     
  4. Chopo

    Chopo Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever looked at a flag?
    [​IMG]
    I can't possibly imagine how a couple of continuously repeating wool blocks resembles a flag more than a banner does.
     
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  5. Quarrelt

    Quarrelt Genetic co-leader | team!

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    Does it really matter what "looks" like a flag more? If the mechanics of the banners can replicate how the old wool worked there isn't a problem. (Yes, at the moment they aren't working, so it makes CTF rather difficult to play.) If you kept the text "red flag" and "blue flag" that we have now you could, theoretically, make the item whatever you want.

    As long as the mechanics work, I personally don't care. I support wool because I think the flag is the last thing in this game that needed a change - seemed rather pointless and just a lot of extra work when there's other things to do. If it can get fixed, great, awesome - but if it keeps causing more problems, I don't think it's worth it.
     
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  6. Ninsanity

    Ninsanity Yoshi Legend and Medic Main

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    Just thought of this pun a little while ago...
    - I think the banner... is bannerble.
    - The banner should be banner'd

    On a more serious note, just as Quar said, it doesn't really matter what it looks like as long as the mechangics work properly... and the banner was pointless in my opinion because it didn't need fixing or changing. It looked "professional" before, and shouldn't really be changed.
     
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  7. Lugia_

    Lugia_ support =D

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    @NomNuggetNom - are we able to receive an answer for this? I'm sure a few people are wondering the same thing as I have seen some people talk about it above.
     
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  8. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Reading through some of these comments, I almost threw my computer out the window from some of these guy's logic. I play CTF a lot, and literally, the only issue I've EVER had with the banners is that when I'm ninja, the pick up time limit often gets me killed. I see that it is not much of a glitch, more of an addition to the game as I picked up from some posts behind this, so I won't argue on that.

    But seriously, the first few posts of this said the McPvPers do not like change.
    We don't want to.
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    No offense, but this made you sound like an 8 year old brat. Change is inevitable. Sometimes it can be for the better or worse, but arguing about it won't change anything. You guys talk about McPvP and Brawl like they're two separate servers. Well, they're not. They are one server now, one Brawl. You guys can talk trash about Brawl all you like, but if you don't like our server, then you can go find another one. Or see if you can do better. See if I care.

    You guys literally even admitted to being stubborn. Just because of this, I don't think you guys even have a purpose to this argument other than 'we don't like change'. Sure, you can give all the excuses you want. 'It's harder' is basically the only excuse I've heard from the 7 pages of this thread. So what? Just because it's more of a challenge doesn't mean you have to flame our veterans and create new threads about this sh*t. Ever since you guys have come to our server, all you've done is complain and make even more problems within our community. First, the Raven incident. Then this? I was literally playing SGG the other day, and saw some McPvP players saying Brawl sucks and McPvP was better. Then on WarZ yesterday, me and @Luigi were arguing with some douchebag named @Bret because he said McPvP would have more players than Brawl would ever have. Seriously, if you're going to stay in our server, you have to follow our rules. If you don't like how we run our server, then you can get out. Nobody would care, one less idiot.

    we're pushing them back
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    F1r3tar Highly Established Member

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  11. Lugia_

    Lugia_ support =D

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    ok gotcha !
     
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  12. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    <sarcasm> Oh wow. You're real friendly for a staff member. </sarcasm>
    Okay, here's a succinct list of reasons we don't like banners that are currently relevant:
    -They change gameplay to the point where the careful balance of classes is upended
    That's really it. It makes it so that you can't use anything inside the banners, making assassin much more powerful, nerving soldier's ability to get out of the flag room, and ninja's ability to quickly escape. Wool never did this.
    When you say "Get used to change" and "don't be stubborn" let me be frank: I feel like punching my computer. We recently got a whole new class added and 2 classes drastically changed. (Elf, Engineer, Ninja). And how many complained? Like, nearly 0 people. We only protest change when we see it doing bad things. And this change has done bad things. It was a serious nerf to offense, which is the last thing we need when we have the OP defensive class of pyro. You don't understand how much this changes gameplay negatively. We won't "adapt" to a change that makes this so much less fun.
     
  13. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    Allright, so that was worded badly, I'll admit that. However, if the change is for the worse, why would we not argue about it? WE believe the banners were a change for the worse, and so we challenged the devs on their call. They responded by changing the mechanics, good job to them for that. Also, McPvP and Brawl are 2 seperate servers, so idk wat yur talking about. You guys got the gamemodes, not the server system. Their seperate, with different rules, different mods, admins, coding, etc.... Also, speaking of sounding like an 8 year old brat, you sound like someone who is butthurt over us calling people out over flaws. Do you not complain when a change skrews something up?

    Yah, we're stubborn. So? Does that make our point any less valid? You seem to think it does. Just because we are stubborn, doesn't mean our point isn't right. "It's harder" isn't an excuse, it's a reason the wool was better. Picking up the banner was pretty much impossible when being knocked around, and recovery was broken as heck. It being harder is actually a reason, believe it or not. You seem to believe that our opinion is complete trash, as evident from your post. So, pardon me if I dun take you seriously. Also, we come here, and yeah we complain. We tend to point problems out and ask to get them fixed. If you guys have never complained, then idk wat to say. Also, you are now making a distinction between McPvP'ers and Brawlers, by saying "we" are making "your" community a worse place. Well now, didn't you just say we're one and the same? In fact, I believe it was you that said we could trash talk Brawl all we want, but we should just leave. Well, you can trash talk us all you want, but you could take your own advice and leave!!!

    I have no idea what the Raven incident is. And yah, some people will say that, but who cares tbh. This has turned from calling us out on our banner complaints, too a full out rant on the new members of your community. You need to follow your own advice and remember, we're one server now. We have to live with you, but you also have to live with us. Nobody would care, one less idiot!1!!1!!1!11111

    Also, we do follow your rules. As far as I can tell, asking the devs why a change was added and listing how the old ways were better isn't against the rules. And the whole point of this thread was to ask why the banners were put in place, not questioning how the server was run. And if we did, it was to ask, once again, why the banners were here. If you don't like how we respond to changes, then you can get out!1!11!!1!!
     
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  14. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Swearing is allowed?
    *Former staff member
    It's fun for me, and lots of other people. It's not fun for you because you're used to the other CTF. Same with all the 'veterans' of CTF. And I can call you stubborn all I want. It's your words, not mine.

    *Quoting Usp45 on this*
    "Literally, all I would have to do to kill myself is just jump from half of McPvP's ego/stubbornness to their IQ"

    You guys really need to stop complaining. It's all I see of you, and you're not making a great first impression.
     
  15. lnsideJokes

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    Well, seeing that @shadowluigiezpz linked me to a thread involving flame, i had to step in :smile:. We didn't really ask to be transferred to another server, we had the server we loved perfectly set up before. The fact that we were transferred to brawl was the fault of income that mcpvp was making. Who cares which server gets more players, nobody needs to complain about the change of flag, it's just a little update in aesthetics. Personally i was being a huge brat when everything was glitchy and I was not used to any of the changes. The staff of both mcpvp and brawl had warned aesthetic changes, so it's on our fault for not preparing for what's to come. Brawlers however, need to understand what we have been going through. Out of nowhere, we were forced to pull through with these changes and the couple weeks wait off of our favorite gamemode. It's impossible for there not to be criticism towards these updates. The amount of players complaining from mcpvp is enough. If you can't handle them, just don't get involved with their topics. I alone know that It feels amazing to use the fact that I'm a "veteran" when arguing with others, showing I have more "experience". I do think about how I use the information I know. The person I'm arguing with is equally knowledgable with something that that I am not. You cannot tell someone off about something you don't know about.
     
  16. Lung

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    @iWish why do you try to pick fights with everyone you see. You basically said all the McPvP players are idiots......How about you stick to WarZ and leave us alone. All of us haved played ctf longer than you, so stfu and go to the WarZ section. Need Help? https://www.brawl.com/forums/32/ 1.Stfu 2. click link 3.Gtfo Hmm...Former mod, i wonder why.
     
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  17. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Contradicted yourself there.
    It does, actually, based on how you've commented on this thread. You are too stubborn for change, so you will not allow yourselves to accept any new ideas Brawl has to give you. You said it yourself a few pages back. You do not want change.
     
  18. Lugia_

    Lugia_ support =D

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    swearing is allowed? that's why it's censored?

    also, may i ask why are you a former staff member and not a present staff member?
     
  19. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    I hate idiots like you. You bring me down to your IQ level and beat me with moron logic. I can't argue with someone who's not permeable to reason.

    We accepted so many new changes over the past months. We won't accept a bad change though. You shove crap down our throats and expect us not to cough.
     
  20. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    Because I resigned.
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/22673/
    Yet you're picking a fight with me, a complete stranger, to you.
    Because as I said above, I resigned.
    https://www.brawl.com/threads/22673/
    What logic of mine is idiotic?
     
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