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Any actual legit reasons for Freeday "Noobday" Friday?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by MineBrick12, Jun 21, 2015.

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  1. BAWSS5

    BAWSS5 Well-Known Member

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    Oh, well, there you go then.

    So you're aware that your entire point is incredibly selfish. Because it is. It really is.

    That's really all I have to say about the topic, by the way. If you want freeday removed, post actual points and evidence towards what makes freeday removable and we'll have an argument then. As long as the only point you'll make is that it's 'irritating' to have to kill noobs (the horror), you are going to continue to look like a selfish player who wants something changed because it's a slight inconvenience and not actually game breaking.

    As it stands right now, the evidence towards the continued implimentation of freeday is thus: it's intended to allow players a chance to experience a class without having to buy it first, and simultaneously test that class against all the other classes that are out in abundance. Not only that, but even without numerical statistics, the very fact that the freeday has been implimented and has REMAINED implimented for nearly the entire time CTF has been active speaks volumes to the effectiveness of it, by virtue alone. If freeday did not work, it would have been removed quickly, as mcpvp was a buisness first and foremost. Even if it works as a loss leader, it still proved valuable enough to the company that it remained as a feature for four years running.

    Not only that, clearly a large majority of players find freeday entertaining, as you go on any Friday you'll see more players on than any other day of the week. Why remove such a large playerbase's idea of fun to suit some guy who doesn't like waiting until past 7:00 (at least in my time zone) to play on a friday.

    So, what can YOU bring to the table as evidence against freeday, evidence that, to paraphrase your own words, cannot be easily refuted?
     
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  2. MineBrick12

    MineBrick12 Active Member

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    Well, we could do a test to settle the matter once in for all.
    This is purely in terms of Economics:
    Do a test of the effects of Freeday 'Noobday' Friday.
    For example, tally for, let's say a month, of premium classes bought during that said month. No changes, aka, Freeday 'Noobday' Friday is in effect for this said month.
    After that, remove Freeday 'Noobday' Friday temporarily for a month and tally the amount of premium classes bought during said month.
    Then compare results.
    If the amount of CTF Classes bought during no Freeday 'Noobday' Friday is more or is about the same then the amount of CTF Classes bought during Freeday 'Noobday' Friday was in effect, then I win.
    If the amount of CTF Classes bought during no Freeday 'Noobday' Friday is less then the amount of CTF Classes bought during Freeday 'Noobday' Friday was in effect, then you guys win and I'll destroy the OP of the thread.
    Of course, this would require Dev. assistance, and since that's probably not happening...
     
  3. Andrwe

    Andrwe Well-Known Member

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    So people can test out kits and see if they want to buy them.
    You are probably more likely to buy a kit you understand, or that you KNOW you like, so you can play it throughout the week.

    It is like test driving a car I would imagine.
     
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  4. Zeek

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    can you elaborate? I don't understand who is suffering from all of this
     
  5. Ducksfan101

    Ducksfan101 Well-Known Member

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    First of all, that's totally stupid that you want new people not to try out new classes so you can just cap. That was a totally mean and rude comment to say. Also, the new people should get used to the new classes so they know if they like it or not. I know that brawl will keep Freeday Friday.
     
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  6. __Mountaindew__

    __Mountaindew__ Well-Known Member

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    Well.... if there wasn't Freeday Friday, people would complain about not being able to test out the classes before buying them.......
     
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  7. Risabu

    Risabu Active Member

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    I don't understand your reasoning for a test, there's really no reason to test something like this as its basic economics and quite frankly, common sense. If you put a test object forward, people are more likely to buy the actual products. That's why they give free samples at wholesale markets(cough Costco cough). You have been given firsthand anecdotal evidence earlier, which is really the best way to show the impact of freeday. I myself picked my first class based on freeday, and if I hadn't been allowed to test the classes, I'd be less willing to obtain a class.

    Anyways, freeday is great and is really helpful, and even the mcpvp staff in the past(wiki) has stated how freeday is helpful.
    /close thread
     
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  8. Shawn_

    Shawn_ Playing CTF and making maps since 2012

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    Truth is, I actually tried out all the premium classes except elf (I preordered it) on freeday. That's probably what happened to a lot of other players with lots of premium classes. I personally just practice my archery on freedays since its hard to cap in that day. Like others said, if you don't like to play on freeday, just play something else.
     
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  9. Snowleak14

    Snowleak14 Well-Known Member

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    Oh well. At first I didn't insult you. Secondly trying to make a comeback by correcting their grammar is one of the stupidest things you can do. Just accept that your idea is garbage and so are you.
     
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  10. November

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    lol you are so bad if you cant deal with freeday. i think i have got pretty much all my high killstreaks on a freeday
     
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  11. DanielSadjadi

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    I personally never play on Friday, sometimes I do when I forget it's noobday.
    But you gotta think, when you were new to the server yourself you actually found noobday useful for
    trying out the classes and getting used to them, and see if you're interested in buying them.

    I don't know about you but I personally used to cherish noobday and that's how I learned CTF and was
    convinced to buying the classes.

    Sadjadi
     
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  12. Webmant

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    Freeday Friday allows people to play and try out new classes that they might otherwise not have had a chance to play, meaning it is vital for fun and profit. However, the fact that such a large majority of the community is annoyed or simply don't play by the arrival of Freeday Friday is just proof that many of the premium classes are overpowered, annoying, and/or unbalanced, obviously calling for a change of some sort, which will probably never arrive. Blame the current state of the classes, not the event, as in a balanced game, having anyone be able to play any class should be fine and viable, which is of course not the case in CTF.
     
  13. ACE_BLUE2

    ACE_BLUE2 Sup'

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    Yeah, freeday has it's pros and cons, pro being incentive, con being lag and an engineer filled game. But, the pro outweighs the cons, as an irritated person could just go onto a less populated server, we have four of them.
     
  14. Nohox

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    Personally I don't think it's the classes itself that get annoying on freeday, it's the amount they are used. The fact that some classes are premium is not only a feature to earn money from the server, it's also a game balancer. Two or three engineers of one team are easy to handle, but imagine a dozen of them on a map, especially the pre-rework engineers. That would be hellish. This is why most premium classes aren't suited to be available for free, restricting classes to being premium limits overuse of it. In low numbers they are fine and balanced, which is not given on a freeday.

    Yet (in my personal opinion) premium classes are still balanced enough to make Fridays playable, otherwise there would have been many more complaints and freeday would have probably been taken out by now.
     
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  15. MineBrick12

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    K thnx trashpile
    Make 8 CTF servers and we might actcualy see some small games.
    Sometimes I don't want to be forced to kill*****...
    It's like you guys saying, "I don't want to go medic to kill pyros..."
    I don't have a problem with it, but it's pathetic if you're going to attempt to mock me when you argue about not going medic to kill pyros.
     
  16. November

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    what part of the game are you playing the requires you to kill nothing. if you plan to go into a ctf game with the mindset of capping/defending/recovery without actually killing anything then you are going to have a hard time
     
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  17. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    If you can put up with pros using the more powerful classes 6 days a week, I don't see why its so hard to put up with new players who hardly know what they're doing using the more powerful classes once a week. If something breaks the game if you make it free, it is too pay2win.
     
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  18. GreenNature

    GreenNature Nature is Creative

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    We already said the benefits of freeday. So we should keep it. End of question.
     
  19. BAWSS5

    BAWSS5 Well-Known Member

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    It's not that we've listed benefits, it's that he's not listed any viable and debatable downsides.
     
  20. Ducksfan101

    Ducksfan101 Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, there is no difference when I'm capping on Free-day than any other day. Also your just really being rude to the new people here and your also being very rubbish for creating this thread. We were all fine in Mcpvp and now that CTF is in Brawl. We want all these changes. Friday-Friday is a keeper
     
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