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Which class do you think is the most overpowered?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by ExtremeEvoboost, Jul 10, 2015.

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Which class is the most OP?

  1. Archer

    4.0%
  2. Mage

    4.0%
  3. Pyro

    22.0%
  4. Assassin

    2.0%
  5. Dwarf

    2.0%
  6. Medic

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Ninja

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Fashionista :P

    14.0%
  9. Chemist

    46.0%
  10. Soldier

    6.0%
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  1. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    STEROIDS!!!
     
  2. Proterozoic

    Proterozoic Wiki Team is a Semi-Staff Rank

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    fashionista, period. It's dyes make people die :O
     
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  3. Risabu

    Risabu Active Member

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    Why would you NOT put mage there?
    You make no sense
     
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  4. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Mage is SO easy to kill if you have the right technique.
     
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  5. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    ARCHER MAGE WAR!!! EVERYONE! There is an ARCHER vs MAGE war!!! Place Your Bets!
     
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  6. Risabu

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    Yeah the right technique which includes not getting hit or trying to corner the mage into a close spot. Which only works if the mage sucks or if he's stupid.

    When I play mage its easy as hell to take on 3 heavies at once, as you have so many escape options. You're not playing a hard class kiddo, its easy and hard to counter, especially with free classes.
     
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  7. Lugia_

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    chemist or pyro i cant rly decide
     
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  8. RHCube

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    Pyro. It's so easy to master. Also, why did you put mage there and not soldier? Mage may be annoying, but it is easy to kill.
    Soldier however takes forever to kill. If you get close to them they'll just wall-climb to a spot you can't reach.
     
  9. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that it's SO easy to get killed by ONE skilled heavy like tysonyoshi? He knows how to deal with mage. The 3 heavies you're talking about barely know how to strafe.
     
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  10. RHCube

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    Also, ninja and assassin are good counters to mage.
     
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  11. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    Some people Actually think mage is a decent threat, however Ididn't know soldier was such a problem at the time, As people don't complain about it in a pvp point of view.
     
  12. Sir_Inge

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    Yeah, I wish soldiers would PvP instead of flyhack.
     
  13. ExtremeEvoboost

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    Im talking about raw data, the skill of one player doesn't matter to me, Its the abilties, weaponry, health, and armor that concern me. If a single player is enough to get you to hate that class. thats your problem

    That would be heavy, a flyhacking soldier would just be pointless.
     
  14. Risabu

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    Its only easy if you're stupid. I've killed skilled heavies such as tysonyoshi and webmant in the past with ease. Your argument doesn't hold water against me, I've been here longer, you can't use the 'you're fighting unskilled people' argument with me.

    Its interesting, all the heavies I know despise mages because they have a built in reset button known as the healing pot, and 4 other spells that help the opponent stay back and not get close to the mage.
    @RHCube
    You're not really arguing against me considering you just mentioned two premium classes. But I guess I'll talk anyways. According to several top tier mages I've talked to, and my own opinion, assassin and ninja differ from person to person. I find ninjas easy, others find assassins easy. Because at the end of the day, if you're assassin, you're depending on the mage to be bad in order to kill the mage. If the mage isn't bad, you're dead, because you can never actually get close to the mage. Ninja its even easier, if they tp to you, you just throw them off with the lightning, then the pew pew spells, and gg. Or, just tank the ninja hits with your heal, throw em off, pew pew, rip. Now, I agree ninja is still one of the better counters, but, even that can be countered by mage.
     
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  15. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Why are you whining about mage when it's SO HARD to capture with and is only an okay recovery class?

    I was joking about the soldier -_o
    Anyways, if you want raw data:
    As a skilled mage:
    Damage spell misses about 25% of the time
    Flame spell misses about 40% of the time
    Freeze spell misses about 50% of the time
    Lightning spell misses 25% of the time and when it hits it launches them towards you 50% of the time
    Heal spell misses 20% of the time
    What does all this mean?
    25% of the time, any given class gains ground on a mage (DMG).
    A mage can only momentarily stop a fight 50% of the time(Freeze).
    20% of the time, a mage will not be healed properly(Heal).
    So, if you do the odds, 1/40 of the time all 3 of these will occur and the mage will die. Each of the spells are fired off about 10-20 times in a long fight. So, a mage will almost always loose 1/2 to 1/4 of their fights. This would be for an endless 1v1. There are other players too, which makes it more like 1/2 to 1/3.
     
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  16. ItsNotoriousBIG

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    Come on Pyro is for sure the strongest ! With some luck and some skill its a great class , i guess Chemist can also be good ...
     
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    lol made up stats
     
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  18. Sir_Inge

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    Chemist, pyro, and soldier occupy a balanced high tier of classes. These classes go with each other perfectly. However, when other classes are added in, this balance is upset because those classes are of the low tier. Pyro can wreck anything not soldier or chemist, chemist can wreck anything not pyro and not escaping like soldier, and soldier can get away from both pyro and chemist with ease.
    Chemist counters Pyro and vice versa
    Soldier counters Pyro and vice versa
    Soldier can escape Chemist and vice versa (Speed, wall climb)
    When fighting: Soldier and Chemist are about even.
    There you have it.

    They're not made up; those are my experience and they're approximate figures.
     
  19. Risabu

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    Why are you whining about me talking about mage? You're the only one whining here. Stop talking and get out if you can't even argue. Made up stats. If those stats are for you, then you must suck at mage. If you cant argue without making up numbers, I don't even know why you're here.

    "As a skilled mage"
    You're not skilled.

    If you agree its so hard to cap with it, and only okay to recover, you must agree with me when I say it doesn't belong in ctf. Its here only to annoy the hell out of players, and should be changed to better fit the game.
     
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  20. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Let's drop this before it gets too flame-y. Let's just agree that there are worse problems than mage right now.
     
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