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Should we Update to 1.9?

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by RaZeragon, Jul 23, 2015.

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Update or no Update?

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  1. AriesRam10

    AriesRam10 Old MCPVP'er

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    Yea, I know game-play over aesthetics. Just thought I would throw it out there in case anyone thought the same way : 3

    (You forgot Mage ;D)
     
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  2. TOM_SAYS

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    Regarding your posts I see you are against the 1.9 update for CTF anyway...
     
  3. AriesRam10

    AriesRam10 Old MCPVP'er

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    Ehh, not really. I think a Shield for Heavy and Dwarf are a great idea. I think dual wielding for Ninja or Elf could be interesting.

    But what I am against is the whole. NEW UPDATE! OMG we have to add everything from it to every class! That and changing somthing that isent broken.
     
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  4. SoCool21

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    Its not technically adding anything that will change it much - 1.9 removes sword blocking, so adding shields still let's people block.

    You either add shields, don't update to 1.9, or assassin will be majorly overpowered.
     
  5. AriesRam10

    AriesRam10 Old MCPVP'er

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    Sadly, rock and a hard place :c. Yea, IMO they should add shields, once Assassin get changed take 'em away or keep 'em dependent on the class.
     
  6. TOM_SAYS

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    Which is why assassin also needs to be changed.
     
  7. SoCool21

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    But adding shields is pretty much writing a line or 2 of code for each class. If they're gonna change assassin, they need to ask our ideas of it (which take a while), code it, test it, make sure its fine for general CTF gameplay, release it, and then alter it depending on the feedback when it is added.

    Adding shields is a lot easier, and is feasible to do before 1.9 hits Brawl.
     
  8. TOM_SAYS

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    If 10+ classes need to be changed, because one single class gets a major advantage. Which one should be changed; assassin or all the others???
     
  9. SoCool21

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    Depends on how big of a change all the others would undergo. Adding a shield that does the same thing that blocking does now is a tiny change, which doesn't require a lot of planning and is relatively easy and quick to do.
     
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    Shields are going to do a lot more then just blocking a sword, also reduced incoming damage. Now we are going to get shields in CTF, we can easily make real tanks and offensive classes.
     
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    Blocking with a sword also reduces incoming damage. Shields are practically the same as blocking, but as a different item.
     
  12. TOM_SAYS

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    I'm sure a shield would block a lot more then a sword. Otherwise they wouldn't make an entire new item for it.
     
  13. pookeythekid

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    You forgot Fashionista! D:
     
  14. Brendoom

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    I would honestly wait a little while to see how other servers cope with 1.9. When 1.8 came out for the first time, bugs, glitches and was rubbish. I would honestly wait before thinking about that but i wouldn't mind.
     
  15. SoCool21

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    When 1.8 came out on every other server it was fine. hclewk was lazy with updating it, unlike staff teams such as on Mineplex who had a lot more staff on it and wasn't lazy about it.
     
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    Okay, I just want to clarify this: I'm not against adding shields to some of the classes when CTF updates to 1.9. It could add some diversity to combat and would be kinda cool to work with. You said that adding shields would be a temporary fix but then directly contradict yourself by stating that Assassin is in no immediate need for a rework, when it is. If Assassin were to be reworked now or very soon then adding shields as a band aid fix would not be needed. Anyway I digress, there are two main reasons why Assassin needs a rework - because its entirely dependent on a broken mechanic, and because it has no independent role in CTF.

    The other reason is that Assassin does almost nothing Ninja doesn't already do. This is problematic because it makes it to where the class doesn't offer game-play that is very unique nor does it enable it to add much to the game aside from being a semi effective counter to high level Dwarves.
     
  17. pookeythekid

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    I get confused when I try to see how I contradicted myself. Add shields for blocking, for the time being don't rework assassin. I think you're simply supporting the direct opposite: don't add shields for blocking, and rework assassin.

    Edit: for the moment I completely forgot your note that shields may be a good idea to add. So please allow me to revise that: rework assassin, shields is optional. That's what I'm really getting.
    Can't argue much with that. I mentioned in a different thread (I think), I believe a decent assassin rework would include no blocking and a 3-hit KO while assassinate is activated, and a 2-hit to KO the assassin (the original 1-hit can be argued) while assassinate is active. 3 hits is enough for people to realize they're being damaged and strike back though 2 is not enough and 4 is too likely for the assassin to die first.

    However... even if my idea of a rework was performed, the idea of assassin would indeed be very similar to ninja. High damage and surprise attacks would be the style of both classes.
     
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