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  1. Chilled_67

    Chilled_67 Lizard

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    Pyro no longer has an instakill, but I think its still overpowered with its sword and tnt ability. Even though the sword isn't as op as a ninjas, it still does quite a bit of damage. Especially if the target is on fire and taking damage from fire as well as a sword. This rework could be totally acceptable, depending on how the other classes change
     
    #41 Chilled_67, Jul 25, 2015
  2. asagod

    asagod Youtuber

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    Ew. Stop messing with pyro just take away its flint and give it an iron axe. Maybe just remove instakills. Why don't we just change every class that people say is op. (Which is every class) and ruin ctf?
     
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    #42 asagod, Jul 25, 2015
  3. TOM_SAYS

    TOM_SAYS Active Member

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    Pyro can attack exactly as the supposed defense. You see more medic cappers then medic healers, and you don't hear people about that. Most classes can be used for both. They all just have a different pvp-style. Don't mind those narrow-minded classpuzzlers who are trying to get some kind of class OP/UP circle.

    The funny part is that I didn't even exaggerated that much. Yes, sometimes they are soldier.

    cheers

    instakill is going to be removed regardless. Just remove the ability to ghostcap. Way easier.

    I meant that we alone don't represent the game. Most CTF'ers aren't even on the forums.

    You mean that you want to agree with Edd, while ignoring my clear refutation of his points.

    Oh yes, I agree. I'm getting so tired of people with mindless comments... imuffles has been the only one of the opposers who brought up legit points.

    Yes, all the classes will have some changes and some will have an entire rework; pyro, necro and assassin. 8,75 damage is only much on weak-armoured classes. imuffles addressed a legit point that there does need to be a counter of heavy-armoured classes, thus if that be pyro, pyro could work with the true damage concept. 3,5-4 hearts of true damage by pyro blade. This also doesn't make it op against classes like ninja, assassin and mage, but still strong against the cap classes. As for fireblast. It has a 5 second charge up and won't be spammed throughout the game.

    And what are you trying to say..? -.-
     
    #43 TOM_SAYS, Jul 26, 2015
  4. Tenshirox

    Tenshirox C a p t u r e F l a g

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    1.9 is still in its very early stages of development, and I do not think classes need a rework just to shoehorn in the new "omg dual weilding I can be Goku from SAO!!!" mechanic, the only classes that really need changing would be Dwarf/Elf/Assassin because they involve blocking. I would like to see some classes incorporate dual wielding but currently it doesnt seem like there are many promising ideas to do it.
     
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    #44 Tenshirox, Jul 26, 2015
  5. asagod

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    Did you even play on mcpvp, you sound like an inconsiderate brawl player who knows little about the game mechanics of ctf. Cause I did, I researched it more than school projects.... :sour:
     
    #45 asagod, Jul 26, 2015
  6. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Tenshirox is a tenured mcpvp player who should is well respected in the community. I believe Tom is also an mcpvper.
     
    #46 Sir_Inge, Jul 26, 2015
  7. TOM_SAYS

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    First of all, you sound like a lunatick to me, you aren't making sense here, so please stop making a fool out of yourself.

    Second of all, yes I am from mcpvp. In fact, I've been playing since 2011
     
    #47 TOM_SAYS, Jul 26, 2015
  8. asagod

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    Sorry, didn't mean to offend u. I just highly disagree with this. Read my post about ctf not needing change
     
    #48 asagod, Jul 26, 2015
  9. iMuffles

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    oh, that post that made no sense whatsoever?

    that sounded to me like a rant from an angry SJW tumblrina more than anything "researched"
     
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    #49 iMuffles, Jul 27, 2015
  10. asagod

    asagod Youtuber

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    Woah, were did that come from, why do you hate me? U say "Ur annoying" I reply "you barley know me I never even messaged you
     
    #50 asagod, Jul 27, 2015
  11. iMuffles

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    i'm calling out your bs about "researching" the game when you can't even put together a comprehensible post. your reasoning for that post was also a moot point.
     
    #51 iMuffles, Jul 27, 2015
  12. asagod

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    Yeah.... I actually did research and it was supposed to be a joke about the poor quality. Sorry you don't know how to take a joke
     
    #52 asagod, Jul 27, 2015
  13. iMuffles

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    no, you didn't. prove it to me that you know a single thing about class counters.

    how would i tell that it's a joke? it's not remotely funny and makes no sense either way.

    you're either still pretty dumb or you're making crap up.
     
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    #53 iMuffles, Jul 27, 2015
  14. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    Pyro is better the way it is than your rework. If pyro is gonna have a rework, so does soldier and chemist. Pyro is a defense class, I think you misunderstand that bit even when everyone else tells you the same thing. Also, pyro isn't the top priority in the 1.9 update, Assassin, elf and dwarf are.
     
    #54 xxMineSheepxx, Jul 27, 2015
  15. TOM_SAYS

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    First of all, who are you to decide that pyro is better the way it is!? The classes you mentioned are going to have a rework regardless. I don't misunderstand anything, it's you and those others who are going through tunnelvisions. Pyro is a counter towards heavy-armoured opponents. Also, who is "everyone else"? All classes have priority for a rework regarding 1.9 because of shields and overal balance.

    @iMuffles please don't waste your time on those people. I'd like to know what you think about the changes I made on the rework.
     
    #55 TOM_SAYS, Jul 27, 2015
  16. Uvi

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    ...so rework dwarf - it's more OP and don't try to make pyro an offensive class because it makes no sense.
    As i said in your previous thread, dwarf isn't allowed in matches so there will be no def.
     
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  17. Decelvice

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    With this rework, it doesn't exactly help to remove the camping problem with the inhale/fireblast. Also, having the firebreath ability basically the same as mage is a) confusing and b) unoriginal, and this is made worse if it has a shorter cooldown.
     
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    #57 Decelvice, Aug 2, 2015
  18. TOM_SAYS

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    This pyro is not a camping class. Pyro now has a sword to deal true damage with on burning targets. Fireblast won't do an awful lot damage as it sounds, it doesn't instakill a whole room with a nuke, it does a decent amount of damage and puts all people on fire like pyro bow. Keep in mind that it has a 5 second charge up and every single attack, wether it be a sword or a ninja egg, will cancel the attack. Firebreath isn't unoriginal, it's faster then flamespell and cast with a different item. With that logic you can conclude chemist unoriginal for having the same iron sword like soldier has. Also, the purpose of pyro is to deal damage with pyroblade. Fireballs aren't that strong and can easily be dodged.
     
    #58 TOM_SAYS, Aug 2, 2015
  19. Decelvice

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    What I meant by "unoriginal" is that it uses the same ability. Just because it's a different item or has a different cooldown doesn't make it a completely new thing. Swords are something vanilla: the mage spell is supposed to be unique. How does a chargeup time make it not good for staying in the same safe place to charge? That makes it very difficult to use for offense because you'll get hit all the time, still centering pyro around defense.
     
    #59 Decelvice, Aug 2, 2015
  20. Xaethros

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    Seems interesting, but I think they should put off this update so people can at least get used to the PvP in 1.9
     
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    #60 Xaethros, Aug 2, 2015
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