Idea Mage Nerf v 1.0

Mage Rework v 1.0

Disclaimer: Don't worry there are no walls of text to be found in this post. Gr8 right? It's nice, simple, and short!

Spoiler: GUI Overview

Spoiler: Armor Overview

Overall: +3/10 Armor not including Enchantments.

Spoiler: Tools and Abilities

Damage Spell: This shoots an arrow at a range of 17 blocks that deals of damage, or the damage of an Iron Sword, not through armor. Furthermore, Mage can shoot an arrow every 0.75 seconds and enemies who are hit by arrows take decreased knock back. Also, the firework particles are only one color.
Fire Spell: This shoots a fire charge at a short range for 2.5 seconds, which deals of damage. Mage can use the fire spell once every 4.5 seconds.
Lightning Spell: This shoots a projectile at up to 10 blocks away and deals Knockback II horizontally - which is a distance of 6 blocks - and knockback I vertically - which is a distance of 3 blocks - as well as of damage if hit directly by the lightning. Enemies who are knocked up/back take no fall damage. Also, Mage can use the Lightning Spell once every 5 seconds.
Freeze Spell: This shoots a snowball that encases a player in a 3x3 block ice cube for 2.5 seconds. Mage can shoot a snowball once every 5 seconds.
Heal Spell: This shots a potion of Regeneration III that affects all players in its splash radius for 5 seconds - including enemies! This restores of health and Mage can shoot a regeneration potion every 10 seconds.

Thoughts: As you might have noticed, this rework is basically a whole bunch of little tweaks that are intended to check the more ridiculous parts of Mage while keeping the core of the class the same. Some of the more extreme problems that this rework addresses is Mage's ridiculously strong heal spell, its high knockback and short cool downs.

Check out the change log for more specifics about what has been changed in this Mage.

Spoiler: Changelog

The range of the Damage Spell has been increased from 14 to 17 blocks.
The damage of the Damage Spell has been decreased from to .
The knock back from the Damage Spell has been reduced.
The firework particles of the Damage Spell are only one color instead of two.
The cooldown of the Fire Spell has been decreased from 5 to 4.5 seconds.
The Lightning Spell's knock back has been reduced to Knockback I and Knockback II and changed to be both vertical and horizontal.
The range of the Lightning Spell has been decreased to 10 blocks.
The effect of the Heal Spell has been reduced from Regeneration V to Regeneration III.
The Heal Spell now only heals 0.8 hearts per second instead of 10 hearts per second.
The Heal Spell heals of health at the end of its duration instead of 50 hearts of heath like it currently does.
The Armor has been changed.

Discuss.

@Sir_Inge
@obikenobi21
@LordCh4os
@aRandomBob157
@Quarrelt
@cactusflower

-Admiral

 

Thank you @Sir_Inge and @Latios_Anti_Hax for your overly harsh critiques of my proposal to reduce Mage's currently ridiculously over powered strength.

@Sir_Inge I'm sorry I did not clarify this in the original post but this rework was not entirely intended to stand on its own, it is really supposed to be part of a number of reworks - although it could also work in current CTF.

In either case allow me to correct you that the cooldown on the damage spell is not way too long, it is roughly the same time as it currently is, 1.5 seconds, which is not long at all. Anyway I'm sorry to hear that you find it 'horrific' that I am trying to nerf Mage so that it isn't so incredibly strong when played by a skilled person, as you should know being a Mage main yourself.

Maybe I need to explain myself because I don't think you or Latios spent more than 5 seconds reading this post as judging by your largely un explained and utterly baseless criticism. So these are the reasons why almost everything is nerfed and why they are nerfed the way they are:

-Knockback is nerfed because it allows for INSANE crowd control on a very short cooldown. However it is not as severely nerfed as you might make out because people can still be killed with it and it still allows for decent crowd control.
-The Freeze spell’s cooldown is also longer for the same reason, it allows for far too much crowd control by Mage.
You tell me how 7 second cooldowns are too long for spells that are still quite strong.
-Regeneration III is too little? Really? This Mage still has an unlimited health pool, and can restore 2 more hearts than anyone else can with a steak, not to mention they can heal their teammates as well. Sure it’s not as good as being able to heal 50 hearts every 10 seconds but that was a little bit too OP wasn’t it?
Yes @Sir_Inge! Ninja could kill this Mage! Maybe if you could actually thought about this proposal for a moment you would realize that the whole purpose of this idea was to give Mage the major power nerf it deserves so that way other classes can actually counter it without getting zoned really hard or destroyed from a range?
I’m not saying my rework is perfect but sheesh this is just meant to nerf Mage’s power, not make it useless in the midfield, which it does not. Does it make Mage significantly less powerful than it currently is? Obviously, and I think that’s what every Mage rework should strive for because the class is way too strong right now.

@aRandomBob157 thank you very much for feedback that looks like it had more than 2 seconds of thought put into it I might have messed up the armor or something but I was just playing around with the enchantment features and I threw that in. As for sustainability, I don’t see your point there. Sure, this Mage can’t heal 50 hearts every 10 seconds but it can still do a lot of healing and also has decent crowd control and damage output, although it’s not the monstrosity current Mage is. If it’s an armor problem, once again I don’t really have an issue with the current Mage armor, I was just faffing around with that.

@sportyman56 you're welcome.

@obikenobi21 your common sense is a breath of fresh air.

 

Your point? 1.5 seconds is almost no time at all, even in CTF. I completely fail to see how this is a problem.

You have given literally no evidence to say how Mage becomes like Necro. Necro can be played while AFK. And I nerf Mage without giving it a purpose do I? The class is designed for mid fielding and this is a nerf to that because it is far too powerful in that role, is that not clear enough for you? Yes, it would be much less powerful but I don't see how there is anything wrong with that when the class is more balanced because of it.

Also here's a little tip for you that you might want to consider: when you give someone feedback maybe it's a good idea not to call their ideas horrible right off the bat especially when literally no evidence to support that harsh conclusion is provided.

 

Really? Fascinating how you can tell all that about a rework which has not even been tested in the game before! You might want to watch out next time before you use the slippery slope fallacy like that.

Okay, okay, does my rework have problems? Absolutely, its version 1.0 for cripes sake. I mean come on, literally all this rework does is it nerfs Mage's power to a degree that keeps it from being too good at what it currently does which is mid fielding. Any skilled Mage would be able to work around Heavies although it is true that it would be more difficult to fight them in this reworked version.

Here's a few things I'll change in the rework:

Reduce the cooldowns of Lightning and Ice spells to 5 seconds each.
Reduce the cooldown of the Damage Spell to 1 second.

By the way, if I'm coming off as sarcastic/rude it is because I'm one of those funny people that does not like having their ideas immediately shot down by someone else. How would you feel if someone immediately labeled an idea you posted as 'horrid' simply because it had a couple problems?

 

It's a terrible rework? Okay, that's a perfectly valid opinion. Could you elaborate on that some or do you just agree with everything @Sir_Inge said already?

Also the title is somewhat misleading and I apologize for that. This is not a Mage rework, it is more or less a collection of tweaks on its power.

I agree that Mage does not need a rework, so yes I apologize again for the title, this is a nerf not a rework. Do you think that Mage does not need a nerf? I see you playing Mage a lot in game, so do I. I'm very aware of its power at mid - fielding and I bet you are too, probably more than I am since I'm not that great with it

My rationale for this post as I have stated above, is that Mage is too good at what it does and needs a nerf - not a rework.

 

What's wrong with nerfing the more ridiculous aspects of Mage's power while keeping it in the same role?