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CTF Match rules need to chill

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by asagod, Feb 8, 2016.

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  1. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    But also remember that matches AREN'T everything. So what people who only stick around for matches believe might not always be the right thing. Some players just play it for fun, exactly how the game was designed to be.
    (hurray for being devils Advocate!)
     
  2. Plautius

    Plautius Well-Known Member

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    @Ducksfan101 I wouldn't. But I never see him online either xDD
     
  3. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Of course. Like I said, right now Dwarf, Necro, and Engineer are all badly designed classes so naturally, there is no reason to have them in team matches until they do get reworked in such a fashion so that they aren't as annoying and unnecessary as Justin Bieber.
     
  4. Proterozoic

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    savage comparison right there, and very true
     
  5. KeshS

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    Same thing as saying who will win the race HL3 or reworks.
     
  6. __Mountaindew__

    __Mountaindew__ Well-Known Member

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    Because this would be subjective
    Two thoughts: One being that teams could call out whatever abuse they want and then try to get the other team a strike/warning/foul whatever
    The second thought is that refs might pick sides of a match more easily than before (even without realizing it,) and let whatever possible and questionable "abuse" slide

    Soooo basically this would be purely because of how easy it would be to call "abuse"
     
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  7. pookeythekid

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    That one @pookeythekid guy has been playing since about 2012, and he's still garbage rofl such nub

    But in all seriousness, match rules are in place for a good reason. As of now, there's really no reason to change them.
     
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  8. Webmant

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    Hello, @Zacharyk2011. You didn't seem to very much appreciate my lighting of the spawn on fire. You even wanted to call over a Moderator so as to attempt to ban me! That very same frustration and irritation that you felt while I was constantly lighting the spawn on fire is the same frustration and irritation felt by players that are forced to go up against unbalanced classes that serve to do nothing more but take away from the competitive and fun aspects of Team Matches. As long as a class remains unbalanced, they are to be regulated and restricted in competitive play. No one cares about whether or not you like it. If you really do want to bring about an end or more leniency to these exasperating Match Rules, propose class rebalance ideas that actually fix the classes (and hope they get implemented). When the classes are fixed and balanced, I am sure the Match Rules will be updated so as to allow these classes to be played with lower restriction and without being barred from participating.

    Also, refer to this thread: https://www.brawl.com/threads/52077/
     
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  9. Ducksfan101

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    Gg. Can we lock thread now tbh because topic is answered tbh. Plus I am more archer nub than @pookeythekid
     
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  10. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    They're there because CTF Is not balanced
     
  11. ACE_BLUE2

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    Tbh, if dwarf and engineer were added to matches without first being reworked in the extreme, we'd probably be looking at really REALLY long matches. CTF matches are put in time slots, and it would really stink to have long matches chewing up another teams time. Most players don't have time for excedingly long matches anyways.
     
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  12. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    But with super long matches My dwarven blade can be even more strong. (_;-:wink:_
     
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  13. kriztmas

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    Short and good :smile:
     
  14. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    That's what she said ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
     
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  15. AdamLovesBarca

    AdamLovesBarca CTF player | Original MCPVPer

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    as @November said, the class limitations are there for a reason. If the dwarf would be protected by ninjas until the dwarf reaches some high level, all you need to do is not let any assassin in and you are set for a 0-0 game. And, imagine the defense has a good assassin, a ninja, or a pyro. I myself managed to get over 80 kills in a match, and I've seen people get over 50-60 kills with pyro and ninja in matches.
    Personally, I think necro, in it's current underpowered state, could have a potential place in matches. But except for that, I can't see dwarf nor engineer making it there.
    Simply put, without the class restrictions, the matches would be far bigger messes than they currently are, as we can sometimes see in regular matches on normal servers.
     
  16. CastleBravo1954

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    I am just going to be honest here and say that experience only counts to a certain extent and it doesn't really mean playing just regular CTF but also competitive CTF, maybe thats why you are getting what you are getting. Competitive CTF is way way harder than regular CTF and its for a reason. The word competitive might give you a clue and its self explanatory. and if dwarf was allowed, then everyone would have already taken advantage of it and basically, there would be no competitive CTF. engine is self explanatory. and if you want to play CTF with these classes, then there is 5 ctf regular servers for you to go on and use them. Also i also remember that when i killed you as assassin when you were a dwarf it took the whole team so many tries to try to kill you because your sword was too powerful. Now if it took the whole team the whole game to try to kill you when you were basically alone, then with good players guarding you in competitive CTF, then we wouldn't even be able to kill you at all! so yeah peace :grinning:!
     
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  17. lnsideJokes

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    Now really, time since you joined on a server doesn't account[​IMG] towards your[​IMG] skill unless it's a notice-able change. I could have joined 2012 and still be trash, or join[​IMG] last week and be the best at the game. jsjsjsjs

    I'm so pooped of this statement. I'm no stat wh0#e, but when someone uses this cause they can't handle a cold and truthful statement, it makes me sad

    finally about the topic :stuck_out_tongue:
    who wants to play in a match where a dispenser carries the team LBH
     
  18. Proterozoic

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    essentially at the moment an engineer is a slightly less protected archer without the headshot but with infinite arrows, virtual auto-hit, infinite health and the ability to teleport people. Something seems fishy here xD

    I'll just point out whilst I'm here that you can in fact get a decent amount of caps and a decent kdr too if you split your time up to do multiple things. You're assuming everyone is dedicated specifically to one role, whereas in reality most people do more than one thing. I'm more of a core/roaming defense which means I don't tend to get a lot of caps. If someone were to play a defensive class mixed with something more offensive it's possible they could do both. To say you can't enjoy caps and kdr is rubbish, it just means you have to play a mixed set of stuff. This isn't meant to justify people caring about what is at the end of the day a stat (very hypocritical coming from me, I'm aware) but it's rubbish to say you can't do both.
     
  19. Codebastian

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    This is definitely debatable. I questioned this many times and understand their reason why certain are restricted because of certain things. Its just what it is and I did not read this entire forum. But as Mentioned by @Plautius, it would just take longer. But tbh, who would want to be a dwarf in a match ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  20. Plautius

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    hey my post got edited, thanks for telling me
     
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