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Idea Assassin Rework

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by obikenobi21, Feb 9, 2016.

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  1. SlicingKunai

    SlicingKunai Member

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    With the teleporting back before 3 seconds have passed after teleporting thing, couldn't the assassin teleport up to the flag, get it, then teleport back easily within 3 seconds? This could be a potential flaw in your rework.
     
  2. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    That... that's your flaw? What the heck are you on.

    Do you not realize that this Assassin has SHEARS as it's knifes? SHEARS!!! This is supposed to be an Assassin, not Bart the Hedge Trimmer for cripes sake! And you see no flaws in that? You see no flaws in the fact that every time Assassin wants to get a kill it has to THROW a pair of freaking HEDGE CLIPPERS at an enemy?!

    And hey while were at it, why don't we give Assassin a friggin lawnmower because why the hell not? Just do it! Replace Assassin's sword with a lawnmower. You already gave it some HEDGE CLIPPERS so why not just complete the package eh? We'll call it the Farmer Bob class. It's like f*ckin, guddamned, friggin Bob the Builder except you CLIP HEDGES and MOW THE LAWN instead! Oh boy! I can just imagine the FUN to be had with that!

    It's like two classes in one! Bob the builder, Assassin, who gives a sh*t? It's the same thing right? Same thing! Totally!

    YEAH. Sometimes I just wanna scream,

    "OBI! OBI!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SH*T OBI?!?!?!?!? SHEARS ARE NOT KNIVES BRO"

    ANYWAY I guess it's time to go down to Home Depot and stock up cause we've got one HELL of sh*tstorm a brewin' boys! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    Screw this I'm out
     
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  3. BrandinoB

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    . . . Obi I think he wants you to change it from shears to something like an arrow. I'm not sure though, just going off of a hunch.

    I like the whole increase in damage thing. Rewards you for doing good w pvp while you're still able to do lots of damage.

    One thing I forgot to mention in my previous post: I think your version should have some steak. Not a lot, but maybe like 2. Without the instakill and speed 3 sugars, your assassin will find it a lot more difficult getting around without dying quickly.
     
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  4. pookeythekid

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    pearl, eye of ender, wahtever :stuck_out_tongue:

    Also, based on what @SlicingKunai said above, I don't think the teleporter should be usable with the flag in tow, otherwise we'd get another form of ninja capping :grinning:

    Anyway, I like the new changes. Like what Brandino said ^, it can still potentially die pretty quickly, so either a couple steaks or a slightly increased blood-lust would be nice :smile: (not that I know what's good for assassin lol I don't even play it on free days)
     
  5. SlicingKunai

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    ... yeah but I just thought that this point was valid too... ._.
     
  6. GalaThundR

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    Any rework of assassin is better than the current assassin imo, and this is a very nice rework, but there's one thing about this I don't like. I don't like how the assassin can teleport.
    The teleporting just seems like a petty idea to make up for it's speed being reduced. It also makes this assassin seem like a weaker ninja. Maybe just have sugar that when right clicked it gives you speed III or IV that regenerates over time, like the current assassin? But other than that I like this rework.
     
  7. sp00ky101

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    What if you made it so the only thing that changed with assassin is the Sword damage progression, and maybe gave it chainmail leggings to increase survivalbility? I'd be ok with that.
     
  8. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    idk man, shears can stab too!

    Well, I was hoping the lifesteal would be enough for assassin to survive xD +the shadow dash can be used for escaping, although out-of-combat regen would mean the in-combat regen would need to be scrapped. I think da best way to do it is just slightly increased the lifesteal.

    Yeah, I'll increase Bloodlust to 1 heart, which should make the survivability shoot up, but shouldn't make it impossible to kill seeing as most classes 3 shot it.

    And yeah, shadowdash shouldn't be able to be used with the flag.

    Well, the idea behind the teleport was to literally replace the speed boost in terms of getting around. I kept speed I because assassin should have more base mobility then the other classes seeing as it can recover, but the gap closer (what was the previous job of speed) I replaced with the teleport.

    Yur point on the weaker version of ninjas pearl is valid, but I think da teleport is fine. It offers a faster gap-close then the speed III did, and isn't meant to make assassin cross the map insanely fast. This assassin shouldn't be nearly as mobile as ninja.
     
  9. Nakatago

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    100% agree with the true damage.
    It wouldn't surprise me at all if they do the same to assassin and archer (in replacement to the instakills), so RIP.
     
  10. BrandinoB

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    I do not believe you listed the life steal in your original post, so unless I missed it in a reply later on. . . :stuck_out_tongue: Even with the life steal though, it might not be enough to get a kill to actually be able to life steal.
     
  11. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    You missed it in an earlier post xDD

    In my reply to Munson I had a new ability:

    Lifesteal- Heals assassin for .5 hearts on hit

    I then changed it to one heart in a later post

    And in the original post I renamed "lifesteal" to "bloodlust"

    xDD
     
  12. BrandinoB

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    o. well fk dat, its crap!!!1!!1!juan!!!!1!!
     
  13. Idunn_

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    I didn't feel like reading all of the previous comments except for a few so I just want to voice my opinion.

    As a person who hardly plays CTF now I think this is actually a good rework. There are a few numbers to tweak but I like the concept is great in my opinion. Only if the mods actually listened to us before they did their own ****ty rework (but after the new CTF updates I think our opinions are being heard) I think this could be a descent class change. (I have nothing against the mods js spare me c: )

    @wintergreen3 @NomNuggetNom @Nohox @TheZombieKat @OtherCTFMods
     
  14. Sayan

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    So... why not just make assassin like pyro? Two hits then blockable instakill. Everything else stays the same. Simple.
     
  15. pookeythekid

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    Still leaves a third of it up to ping. I... honestly can't argue against it with any other reason, but why not have some gud features if you're gonna rework assassin, eh? :wink:
     
  16. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    I'm a bit late to party but hey, better late then never, right?
    I didn't read all of the replies to this, just a few. Personally, I really like this idea. The life steal is a really cool idea, and the crippling effect from the knife is a nice touch. About the teleportation: When you teleport, it could be in order to attack someone. Will there be anything in place to prevent people from repeatedly just running away from someone when they attack them?

    I don't know about the other mods, but I read most of the things in Server Ideas. I don't always comment on them, just when I get tagged or if it's a topic or idea that I have an opinion/comment about.
     
  17. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    I'm sorry, I dun understand da question. Do you mean people running away when the assassin attacks them, or the assassin running away?
     
  18. pookeythekid

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    I think he meant the assassin running away. Which is another point I forgot to address :stuck_out_tongue:. It would be nice to not have people running away after being attacked. That's even worse than noob elves, lol. (not that wind element is overpowered in running away, especially in nerfed state)
     
  19. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    The Assassin attacking someone, hitting them once or twice, then using the teleport away.
     
  20. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    owell, there's nothing to keep the assassin from doing that. I mean, this could happen with pretty much every class, so I dun see how it's a major problem. Although I suppose the second teleport part could be taken out.
     
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