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Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Sibs, Feb 23, 2016.

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  1. Sibs

    Sibs Well-Known Member

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    A little idea for a thread I thought about a while ago that might be interesting to discuss for a number of reasons (Understand how important/unimportant some details are, help grow some more creative idea,ect ect.) So here's how it will work. I will give you a scenario where one thing in CTF is changed whether be in the game-play, forums, community, or whatever related to this Gamemode, and I would like you to explain to me how you think it would affect the rest of the game in detail (not interested in short blunt comments like "it would break ctf" or similar, try to give some detail on what exactly would change if added in and explain your reasoning.)

    So to start off, here's the 1st scenario: What would happen if the class "medic" was removed from the game?

    2nd:What would happen if we edited the maps so that instead of the normal 2 flag system, there would be only one flag owned by one team while the other team is entirely on the offensive (would also mean the maps wouldn't be need to be symmetrical.)
     
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  2. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    It will be harder for both defence and offence, but easier for the recovery (Doesn't really change as much because there are rarely medics healing qq). However, engineer cake might be able to replace, except the fact that the steak, or necessary items won't come back.
     
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    People would complain.

    A lot.
     
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  4. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    The old Engineer cake could come back: restoring the items of your team mates.
    Taking Medic out would make Pyro, even with the nerf, fairly strong in defense once again. As you said Sheep, the offense would be harder without a Medic; capping would be fairly difficult. Defense, on the other hand, would have a mixture of advantages and disadvantages. Yes, it would make defending much easier. A Pyro might be able to handle it himself. However, a player who is decent at Ninja would be disastrous.
     
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  5. Sibs

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    Mind elaborating? (Also for everyone else I'm also interested in the affects outside of matches as well.)
     
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  6. xxMineSheepxx

    xxMineSheepxx baaaahh

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    People complain whenever something gets changed in ctf. People main medic, and it would be just horrifying to take away their favorite class / main. There is also no actual real reason in taking out medics, and medics play a part in ctf, so of course there will be complaining.
     
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    Elf.
    @pookeythekid
     
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  8. CrossBoone

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    The game would be dead becuz everyone would be Ded since no medic


    If I made one it would be, what if there was no such thing as respawn?
     
  9. AdamLovesBarca

    AdamLovesBarca CTF player | Original MCPVPer

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    Something over a year ago, @Quarrelt hosted an event in which there were no respawns and only one person could play each class, so a 12v12 (elf wasn't a thing at that time). The game turned into a really interesting strategy based game, where the most protected people were the medic, the archer and the engineer. However, this was without flags - with flags, the games would either end really quickly or take extra long to resolve.

    Back to removing medic - I think that CTF would become much more of a defensive game, with most matches ending without reaching the 3 or 5 cap count. CTF would also become a much more teamwork based game, as offense would need to work together really well to actually get a cap.
     
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    GetShadowRealmed What do I put here

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    There would be alot more back and forth IMO. Because there won't be any way to get items back, unless you have the CDR like ninja, assassin, etc., there will be times where people will use all their items up and either try to rush the flag room in a futile attempt at capturing or attempt to defend with only their sword or pic. Because of that, the enemy can overpower them and essentially capture a flag, but by that time they will have used their items getting there. Then their enemy can push the advantage and capture a flag. It'd be back a forth. Also I believe more traditional pvo would come into play due to the lack of items respawning.
     
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    If medic got removed in competitive ctf mage and chemist would be used more, because they are the only class that have a heal and aren't permabanned from matches.

    What if instakills were removed? ; )
     
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  14. Deppuccino

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    A lot of people would leave.


    A lot.

    What if CTF got all their mods replaced with Brawl mods, The Almighty One Who Shalt Not Be Named came back and saved us, then Trump would come over and build a wall around CTF so that it never need be worried about people outside their community ever again?
     
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    Chemist?
     
  16. Sibs

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    Why would they leave?
     
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  18. pookeythekid

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    Honestly I think CTF would decline rapidly if a bunch of Brawl mods came in and didn't adjust to the community VERY quickly. I'm not being prejudice personally against Brawl mods here, I get that they have their jobs. But the collective prejudice of a large amount of CTFers (at least what's left of the original community) would be unhappy with the new authority. However I see it as a good sign that, AFTER the move to Brawl, two mods that I know of (@wintergreen3 @TheZombieKat c: ) have risen out of the original community.

    Sooo... This isn't a spiteful question (okay I lied but it's also the following), I legit want to know what the community thinks: what if elf were given double its current armor points and a Pure bow that does 3 hearts pure damage first hit, 7 hearts second consecutive hit, and guarantees a kill on the third consecutive hit?

    Edit: oh yeah, and remove the nerf for good measure, but that doesn't need to be done if these are added.
    @Admiral_Trump @Kriz @cptcliff @Skarm @ProfeshunalSpelr @Keelerr @otherelvesilltaglater
     
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  19. ExtremeEvoboost

    ExtremeEvoboost CTF Media Man

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    This is not your thread. Go about 2 threads down and you'll find your "GIVE US WOOL" Thread.
     
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    Then everybody would go pyro
     
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