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Ninja capping: an apologia

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by Plautius, Mar 19, 2016.

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  1. Plautius

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    He "doesn't want to" (which is why he tries vs me ingame and dies) ok.

    Um, I agree offense should be hard and I think it's absolutely ok buffing defense back (ninja's sharpness <3), but yea. Ninja capping is just needed atm versus some defenses.

    Also, I'll reply anyway @PanDaniel_
    Part one concerning mandatory match rules: obviously, in a match, defense will be much more aware anyway, by far compensating for that dwarf. The role a dwarf has in regular gameplay (immediately guarding the flagpost) is taken over by another class in matches. The function or role remains. Your point, poof, gone?

    Point two about medics: if you have a medic as ninja capper, the point remains the same: ninja recovery has more health at its disposal to reach the medic, can still easily kill the ninja due to the fact the class with the most damage is hitting the class with the least armor and has invisibility to not be hit by the medic. Even if the ninja does get a heal at the middle of the map, a ninja recovery might be waiting at the other flagroom already. We can't calculate all the factors obviously, I'm pointing out the major ones. The medic point can be argued for any other class too though, isn't chemist for example ridiculously OP if you consider he could get a heal and has another five health potions?

    Routes to make archers no problem? I'd like an example for that one. It is not easy to avoid midfield, and even if so, it requires knowledge of the game.

    Distraction isn't cheap, distraction is teamwork and you can't say teamwork is cheap, sorry.

    It isn't counted as respawn abusing in matches if you die with the flag in front of your spawn.

    It is not cheap to use ninja caps versus a defense that isn't breakable otherwise, no. Ninja capping then especially, but not limited to this, is legitimized. So yes, you are wrong there!

    I am not calling soldier capping or heavy capping cheap in the same breath as I am calling ninja capping not cheap. I am just saying ninja capping also needs skill.

    Glitches =/= mechanics

    Quantity of defense > quantity of offense

    Not and, or. First of all. Second, it is not by default the case I have a medic while ninja capping. Obviously you believe I do because the only times you see me ninja capping is when you're around...

    No, you look at my point.

    You just completely ignored my main part in your comment concerning the conclusion. I told you it is not instantly a cap after you got out of defense. Don't argue conclusions if you can't back it up with a main part.
    If you want a decent reply that actually provides an overview, please give me something I can quote and don't put comments into my quote.
     
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    Ninjas ghost capping is needed cause the defense knows ghost/prem capping can end the game in basically less then 30 seconds so they heavily defend? Isnt that interesting, also thanks @LordChaos_92 Its true, i dont care to be a ghost/prem/ninja capper in the slightest, i suck at capping with ninja, that doesnt mean that ghost capping isnt easy or cheap and kinda gamebreaking.


    I dont know about you, but I dont care to ruin a kdr just to get 1 cap, i play the game to have fun, not to piss off a teams defense in 1.5 seconds. I have mage capped several times, even against assassins, mage capping is immensely harder then ninja capping due to easy to be overwhelmed, cant teleport 50 blocks away, cannot block. I would say mages only saving grace is its healing spell, and lightning spell for assassins to knock them away and catch them off guard. This is the only time ill be defending mage. I'm making a point.

    To plautius argument of the iq of 80 for ninjas and such, One ninja on an entire enemy teams good, and btw, it matters on what map it is, if theres medics involved, etc. I wont disagree that some ninjas can recover, but do notice that its certain ninjas that have mastered it basically. They arent on all the time, so when they arent on, thats what im talking about, and even thne the ninja recoverers can fail, just depends on if a ninja can get to a medic, or to an engineer, or just to flag, due to maps like discovery being short as hell.
     
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