Concerning Mage

You're right, all mages are noobs, and all archers are bad :')

 

everybody's a noob

 

I find that more often than not "spellspamming" refers to holding the damage spell and not letting go of right click, flagpole or not. I get that the "official" definition they use in match rules only refers to doing that while staring at the flagpole but honestly no one gives a crap about that.

I find the term "spellspamming" annoying, too, mostly because it's clear people who say that don't get the point: it isn't the spam they hate, it's the class itself. Mage is a showcase of everything wrong with this terribly poorly designed game.

And don't get me started on that obnoxious "overrated words" thread. First of all, the thread was called "overrated words", not "underrated words", are you suggesting we use it more? Second, "overrated" isn't even the correct term to use. Where are the "ratings" for these words, where it can be discerned that these words are "overrated"? It's a case of trying to sound ever so slightly smarter by substituting the word "overused" for a similar sounding word that the poster didn't know the definition of.

The post itself just reeked of "hello here is my IGN and here is my moderating tag. here are my opinions presented as facts and i'm going to watch as this community of bottom-feeders laps up my every word", and it worked. "omg based nohox so true i agree 100% please have my firstborn child", oh piss off I can guarantee almost everyone circlejerking over how great that post was had used one of those 3 words seriously.

"Don't use the word spam in any context, because it's part of the class! Also, potspamming, despite also being a part of the Chemist class, is exempt from this rule for reasons I cannot list because there are no logical reasons to list!" Have you considered that frowning upon "le overrated spam" is a way of the community trying to balance out a broken (le another overrated word, wow i'm such an overrated poster) game, while knowing that no changes will be made to improve the state of the game?

I'm sure everyone will agree that no spamming by any player makes the game more fair and fun for all players, and improves gameplay greatly. This is the reason the mandatory match rules state "no spamming". But I guess those are ****ing overrated too, right? **** that post and **** everyone that takes that stupid crap seriously.

 

Yes nice job, the thing is i dont really care about the definition of underrated and overrated and i really dont care if a moderator makes to words or not. and dont start with your sessions of english class. you are right, maybe popular people like you can get all the influence and fame regardless of what your actions are right or wrong but the people trying to make a change, always get dumped down the drain just because we try to do our job in the game. What i really dont care is what potspamming or any other type of spam is, all i care about spell spamming, and you want to know waht triggers me more? the fact that people commentate on mage being a class without skill when in real life it requires much more skill. Any class can be used the right or wrong way, but the fact that people say that mage can only be used the wrong way makes me feel that this community is the United States in the '50s and '60s. Its always the mages that recieve the hate unless its a rager. SO mr. or mrs. imuffles i really dont care if you talk about words the only word i care about is the word spell spam

 

Yay, someone else knows mage takes more skill when skilled people are involved against it ^.^

 

I, too, do not care about the definitions of words I use in my writing. As a result, shadowed raisin salugi squillagee
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Considering it seemed like you took his words as fact - yes, I'd say you care. You took his opinion piece as if it were an official announcement and based your entire argument off it.

I'd say one's job in the game is to have fun and allow others to have fun at the same time. This can easily be achieved by stopping spam - it doesn't hinder the player's experience and it makes fighting a possibly "spammy" class incredibly less annoying.

And I don't know what you're trying to say by "trying to make a change". Are you suggesting that releasing a stream of damage spells towards a flagpole is "making a change"? I also don't get how you get the impression that I am "popular", given that I don't play at the same time as the majority of players on this server and I'm in a grand total of one team chat.

"doing your job in the game" is also a flawed argument because mage is pretty incompetent objectively. Your job in the game is basically to piss people off at midfield, that's about it. Not the fault of the mage, however, just faulty game design.

I assume by "in real life" you mean "in actuality"?

Much more skill, comparative to what? Compared to the other classes in this game where you move with WASD and spam either your left or right mouse button, occasionally change slots, and continue this process until either you or the opponent dies? Sure, mage takes more skill than any other class in the game. Adding 1 and 2 also takes more skill than adding 1 and 1.

But it's true! Every single one of mage's abilities is specifically tailored to go against the meta that the game has established and be horribly annoying as a result. Mages receive the hate because it is a terrible class that has no place in the game, and the game would be better off with one less range-dependent, infinite regen class.

That's two words.

 

Actually guys, mage is used as offense support/offense/defense/defense suppot/recovery. Can we not get into a fight xd

 

Well letting people have fun at the expense of ruining other people's fun is not called fun. It is called unfairness and sheer stupidness. And if you hate mage that much, then hate the people who made this class not the people who play it. Its not right that someone to be chased away from CTF because they play mage. And for the skill factor, people make these false judgements according to what they see in regular CTF not competitive CTF, and if you were to play this in competitive CTF then you would be dead in 5 seconds if you step into the opponents defense. and mage's abilities are tailored towards support, offense, and defense; thats the entire reason people hate it. And if you take a class which you think takes skill like chemist, well anyone can use chemist in a way that is deemed as a bad way to use it such as potspamming. and you can use the chemist class in any role you would like, so there is no reason as to why mage has only one role and ability. It is absoultely hideous that your response tells people that mage is only desgined for pissing of people at the midfield when infact mage can do so much more. After all its up to the player not the class to decide how good CTF is.

 

For the sake of my eyes, @Doggies_ please put it in paragraphs or at least make it non-walloftext cuz that wall of text alone makes you worse than @iMuffles

Must agree all mages are noobs and rand33s


edit:

Even in competitive CTF, a normal player typically can survive longer than 5 seconds in the enemy's defense, regardless of class unless they're explicitly attempting to get killed.

I'm just assuming here, but I believe the reason people hate mage is because of its unmatched ability to chase, target, harass, and piss off people from range. And I would love to digress from the opinion that mage's abilities are tailored to those specific roles. On defense, mage's only purpose is to discourage soldiers from camping trees and to shoot the occasional ninja, which you can easily do from midfield. Very rarely do you ever get in a 1 on 1 scenario with the flag carrier, since ninjas will always gladly take the lead in the chase.

Mage's ability to piss people off is unmatched, which gives it enough reason to camp midfield.
Even if one runs, there's no escape since a single freeze spell brings you back within range of the mage. Sure, a mage can do much more than just camp midfield, but it's effectiveness is lessened when transferred to other roles.
Play flagroom defense? Get cornered and slain by a medic.
Escort the flag carrier? Get 3 shot by the ninja army.
Capture the flag? Get assassinated.
Step within 20 blocks of flag? Get assassinated.
Midfield is the only spot that allows a mage to spot incoming ninjas and assassins without getting slaughtered mercilessly. Also afforded is the location where you take on an opponent, allowing one to pick a nice spot with few corners or other dangerous spots behind you.

All in all, Mage is quite useless even in competitive CTF unless its to guard your own archer or control midfield.


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For one, muffles makes a much better point than you could, and at least he's not rude. Not to mention muffles is already more skilled than you could ever be, and is an excellent all-rounder. And my eyes are perfectly fine. And one should care because the legibility of Muffles' response is much higher, whereas your's is just a pain to read, and very easily skipped over.

 

Ha makes me worse? LOL very funny. And why should I care if you cant take care of your own eyes because all you do is play video games like this one?

 

Tbh i think mage is a trash class. Its easy to learn and to play generally. It annoys the hell out of me and has no real point in ctf (a few exeptions). It is so anti pvp and can its only real wealness is hs and pvp. The problem is getting it into pvp. In open areas they can move around and in closed areas it is easy 4 them to continuously spam u into walls and corners. As much as i hate mage there are a few players i beleive are actually
skilled at mage. I dont mind dying to
them
Arandombob, hotintexas, chikincows, thesullofthenight, junebugulas, thgstarburst, scarryperry, @Doggies_ and kriderklei. These guys r real good and know how to play mage. Few others im missing but idk.

 

Honestly i hate mages that only spam damage spells, i actually try to go into pvp with mage while taking a necessary break to reheal and using spells while hitting. Its a fun class and if used properly can help a defense and a offense a lot. A mage can lightning people away from the flag post so defense can kill em before they can get to the flag, freeze people that are escaping with flag or freeze a part of a group assault so we can take them out 1 by 1, and flame can slow down a capper with fire damage(mage is excluded and chemist with fire resist) its heal is also a temporary medic or a moveable engineer cake. Its a good class, but like other classes, easy to abuse.

 

forgot me

 

You are funny LOL!

 

Thoroughly disagree. "don't hate the player hate the game" doesn't work in ctf. the reason this usually has merit is because in a sane environment hating the game leads to one of two things. quitting the game or voicing hate of the game. Both actions in mass result in developers changing something in the game. whereas hating the player just makes you a ****. Ctf barely changes even after all the hate and players leaving. So this saying no longer holds merit, because neither actions have the desired effect. I point this out because it's being used as an excuse to get on people's nerves when the least you can do when you play mage is own up to what you are doing. If you can't do that and still want to play mage then maybe you should be chased away from CTF.

 

my quotes will always be more funier than you

 

ok o:

 

Well that doesnt mean that people have the right to make fun of people who play mage. If the people hated mage back then they should have got the community back in MCPVP to make changes in mage. But the thing that really surprises me is the reaction to mage when it first was being released. If mage was astonihsing people back then, then why are people hating mage now? its surprising to say that in the last one and a half years that mage was on ctf there was minimal to no hate to it. and now all the sudden the whole community revolts against it?

 

that grammar and spelling *shiver*