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Resignation The moment you've all been waiting for

Discussion in 'Outros' started by 0racle, Feb 20, 2017.

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  1. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    First off, a staff app is not based purely on my decision. If several other people had other opinions than mine, then I'm sure the majority will win. We, the staff team, had perfectly fair reasons to deny and accept the apps we did. Some people need to work on things first before becoming staff, it doesn't mean we don't like them or we are saying they can never apply again, just not now.

    Second, I have no doubt in my mind that the only option for Raid to continue this upward trend, is for @Eil and @AnonymousGalaxy to take over for me as the manager. No one else has the dedication or knowledge to, which is the most important part of a manager. Side note, I sort of said that as a joke, but partially serious since I am quite cheesed rn. Also, state how the Raid staff are biased please? Not sure where you're coming from this. We tried to add changes that everyone would like with the limited budget we had (Read OP).

    Fair enough. Believe as you please. I'm not going to say that I did an overwhelming amount of work, because I just was doing what my job expected. So perhaps you are right. In no way am I trying to boast on what I've done or anything. I gladly invite you to apply for the position though to get a feel of what its like from the inside though. If you weren't banned of course.
     
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  2. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    Someone complains about food in a restaurant the waiter doesn't tell them to become a chef if they think they can cook better. Same goes for people who complain about hotels, police and any other business...

    As for you being biased for now I won't bring up names of the players you have been harsh on for obvious reasons. I will however talk about the staff apps you have chosen to be more forgiving with *cough people you are friends with
    coigh* I am not at my PC now to post screen shots but you can ask anonymous if he is ready to be MOD or of he gets carried away at times. You are his friend/teammate and you gave him a +1 knowing this.
    As for you being biased on spvp, you choose to keep changes a "surprise" when no one wanted a surpris. This were changes that you didn't allow the community to give feedback on this is mainly referring to the failed update that really killed off half the community #soon
    You haven't taken votes on changes and some of the people who do vote on the ones you made polls for don't even play raid which lead to inaccurate polls and since not all of raid is on forums you seem to ignore the feedback/suggestions people give in-game.
    The glitching anonymous was doing in the end you refused to accept as a glitch and allowed him to do it.
    When your friends Flame you ignore it where as people who complement your eyebrows have been muted.
    Too lazy too list more, might list more later
     
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  3. AnimeLoverVerlyn

    AnimeLoverVerlyn Well-Known Member

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    You were one of the best and closest friends I made during my time on Brawl. It's honestly frustrating to see you go and being unable to stop and dissuade you from leaving. I just wanted to stop by and say thank you for the continuous support you showed me during my time here. It was reassuring to know that you had my back. Someday, I hope to become as dedicated to Brawl as you were. Nonetheless, I know the obligations you carry in life, and I hope you succeed in whatever you plan on focusing next.

    Good luck out there and stay safe! I'll always remember you when I hear someone playing obnoxious dubstep :vvvvvvvvvvv
     
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  4. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    What was the point in writing this part? The thing I called you out for was being biased. Saying you don't have the final decision doesn't take away the fact that you have a say (your say carried more weight since you were smod) in who is accepted or denied nor does it justify your bias towards your friends, especially when they are far less suited/ready for jmod. You are not completely stupid so please don't reply with more bs to try look better than you were.
     
  5. 0racle

    0racle Former Raid and Reports Manager

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    Hahaha thanks man I appreciate it. You really were a good friend. I'll miss your annoying jokes and what not xD

    Lol why exactly are you so salty? If it makes you feel better, I wasn't even the one who banned you. Anyways, I said that part because I was trying to say that my opinion isn't the only one who's taken into account for apps. This means that for someone to get accepted or denied, more people have to agree. I'm sure not all of them are biased like I supposedly am.

    That "glitch" anon did wasn't a glitch, it was just how things are lol. It's always been that way, you just need to time it right. He literally just jumped into the end and warped.

    Your point about polls is completely false. Team caps for example, I made a poll and thread about it before the fact. Sorry if what you wanted wasn't the majority. I asked for many opinions, and always tried to welcome feedback and criticism on all ideas. Look back on the threads I made if you really want to see. All features in the update were subject to change, and we did listen to you guys. Ie, team cap being increased, koth configuring for prizes and time stuff, plus I tried to get a lot more done, but I simply couldn't because we don't have the money to do so.

    I warned friends who flamed, or broke the rules so I don't think that's true. Either we were talking and I warned them, or, to my mistake, pmd them it instead. Regardless, I don't want to spend my time arguing with you about this. Believe as you will, and I'm gone, so I'm no longer your problem to worry about. Thanks.
     
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  6. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    I not salty I just don't agree with all the points you have made in this thread and am tired of brawl having a biased raid management.
    I didn't think I would need to explain this any further but You don't seem to get the point I have made of you being biased on staff applications and continue to hide behind your vote only being a small part of the decision... Not all staff member play raid to get to know the players who have applied some of these staff members then base their vote off of your vote. If you had decided to dig deep to find a minor issue and blow it out of proportions then other mods will follow your vote if they don't know the player... The same goes for giving positive feedback on undeserving players.

    That glitch bypasses the warp cool down when a player is near (in pvp with)

    I didn't say all the decisions you made didnt involve a poll but ideas suggested by the community never had a chance if you disagreed with them(name a change you brought to raid that you personally disagreed with), and you refused to allow discussion/polls on some of the changes you wanted to keep a "surprise" which were just changes you decided upon. You of all people should know how long it takes for mistakes to be fixed on raid so saying all updates are subject to change based on community feedback after they have been implemented is a pathetic excuse to implement biased changes.
    Also I am guessing when you said "Your point about polls is completely false." you weren't talking about my point on polls being skewed by players who don't play raid and those who aren't on forums...
    So you didn't mute your friends but muted others with little to no reason... Hmm not biased at all I guess( sarcasm)
    You are not stupid so don't try mask your mistakes with bs.
    But anyway you are leaving so good luck and have fun
     
  7. Jaemzs

    Jaemzs Ex-Build Team Member

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    Raid was his server, so whether his opinion was biased or not, it was probably in the servers best interest.


    On a brighter note, 0racle, you were probably one of Brawl's most dedicated raid staff members, and probably deserved Admin :stuck_out_tongue:. Peas was promoted to smod so fast because he is an ex-admin, so they probably thought he'd make a good smod (imo he does a decent job). I wish you luck with whatever you do. God bless <3
     
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  8. ibnc

    ibnc Well-Known Member
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    I didnt get a mention but that is ok. First of all @0racle you were the reason I kept in this server. You made this entire experience a positive way at looking at this game mode which made me want to play it more. I don't want to imagine what this community is going to be like but I know without you in it, it will be very different. Thank you for all the time that you have put into this server let alone this new map. I am sorry to see you resign when I just started to get to know you better. You weren't just an average minecraft player that people would play with. You were someone who everyone should get to know. Thank you for all the fun memories that we have had together. I know I will never forget them.
    Good Luck in life man. I hope that job at KFC @Verlyn keeps you busy :stuck_out_tongue:
    Thanks for everything
    ~JuliaSoyuz

     
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  9. AnonymousGalaxy

    AnonymousGalaxy Raid Manager | Manager of Managing | Legacy

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    Might wanna calm down a little there and get back on topic. Regarding the "glitch" you seem to persistently seem to say I abused isn't a glitch at all as it's meant to happen. I feel as if you're saying the only reason I'm staff is because Oracle was/is my friend which is not the case at all. I worked to get into the staff team, and I'm sorry you think that Oracle's the reason I managed to get here. If you truly think I'm incapable of carrying out the duties of staff then PM Cuddled as I've told you to countless times. Regarding your opinions on Oracle being bias on staff applications it's not the case. He was simply stating his opinion along with all the other staff voting and voicing their opinions on staff applications. He simply stated his reasonings and opinions of the player and what they can improve on which isn't something to shame him for. Ultimately it's up to Cuddled to accept or deny people, not Oracle's. Oracle did a lot of stuff behind the scenes to help improve Raid and the community to staff communication, so I'm truly sorry you think he didn't do much for the benefit of Raid. Anyways, calm down a bit fam, PM Oracle if you wanna discuss it more.
     
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  10. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    I am chill fam.
    There isn't much point in me explaining again how Oracle was biased in applications as you were the one he was biased towards and you know this as you said yourself to me that you still can get a bit out of hand, I am currently away so I can't post the screen shot but feel free to lie and be proved wrong later or admit that again and prove my point on his bias. And again saying he doesn't have final say doesn't mean he isn't biased nor does it mean he doesn't have influence over the result. Please stop repeating that as it is pretty irrelevant.
    That glitch is a way to escape pVP and bypass the warp cool down (and was not the intention of the developers) without dieing and is easy to do. You know that /random was changed so you couldn't do it during pvp and there is a warp cool down so you can't warp while in pvp. It is the same as any other glitch you can abuse, just because it's in the game doesn't mean you should do it.

    Wat?
    Its OK to be biased and as a result have a biased raid management team?
    If you don't know Oracle eil and anonymous are friends (I don't have much of a problem with eil as he does try and is deserving of mod) they share mostly the same views as eachother which leads to a biased management when they leave out the views of others. (examples: Obama had people who challenged him advising him, Trump as people who share similar views as him advising him) if you do business you know why this is bad.
     
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  11. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I do understand your style of humour, but thanks to me being on the staff team as long as I was, I have also seen you be reluctant to do things. Either way, the glitch didn't really get mentioned after all that, so it wasn't very good communication.

    That's a bold assumption to make, if you haven't actually been on the staff team and seen the work he's tried to do for the server. 0racle was easily the hardest working SMod, in my opinion.
     
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  12. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    @Ry23an the staff team shares things through Google Drive mainly, and taking a look at my recent documents, about 5/6 of them are from raid.

    Two of them were for the end of map event, and specifically one of them is a huge wall of text for commands we were supposed to be able to do. Each command is like half a page, so don't even try and say those commands are easy to type out.

    Another document I saw is one for the current raid, and it's 7 pages long. How is that exaggerating the work he does for raid? He is the most hardworking SMOD I've ever seen tbh
     
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  13. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    tough work alright, I once had to type up a report in school it was nearly a page long



    -_-
     
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  14. MattM1PVP

    MattM1PVP Ex-HG Staff Member

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    see you only type a page for school whereas 0racle types 7-10 pages for raid
     
  15. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    I was being sarcastic...
     
  16. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I'm a player, so that means I know EVERYTHING that goes on behind the scenes!
     
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  17. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    WOW! Since you are a player do you know the end result from all the typing hard work?
     
  18. featherpaw

    featherpaw Your friendly neighborhood kitten! :3

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    I understand you're angry about being banned and because you think (whether it's true or not isn't of concern here) that oracle was biased in his judgments. However, perhaps I could help shed some light on how much oracle actually did for people and for raid in general. He learned to code command blocks to create that event for raid's newest reset. I stay up super late. (like for real, it's 4:35am here rn) and he was still up working on learning how to make mobs move and ride other mobs and make doors open and all that good jazz. He was the smod who did IP checks for permabanned players (which I'm not sure if you know this or not so no disrespect either way, but they can take up to an hour just for one check). I've seen him work from school, from a store, from the care, anywhere he could possibly set up a computer. When Eil applied for jmod I was skeptical of his ability to work under pressure and oracle literally pm'ed me asking for a discussion on it and because of it he changed my entire views on it. He asked mario every single day to fix something that many raid players were complaining about and when that lava glitch was active on the server he lost items just like everyone else (because he went into poof to check a hacker on another server and someone lava'ed his ip logger). He motivated old players to return and new players to give it a shot. His documents on what he wanted for raid were organized like nothing I've ever seen before and that's saying a lot because I color-code by sentence. I know to you it seems biased, but he did everything physically possible for him to do to try to help the server he loved. I know it won't help because you're adamant on him being the bad guy here, but truthfully, there were no bad guys. Everyone had priorities. Some just happened to conflict. And btw, I was the one who banned you and I spent a good 5 mins just double and triple checking to make sure you actually were hacking. I also have the video evidence if you need it.
     
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  19. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Yep, because I saw all the hard work and was on the staff team while @0racle prepared the update, and now as a player, I can see the end result of it. What players don't see is the tons of ideas that 0racle made which couldn't have been added, due to having to spend Brawl's money wisely. You also don't see the idea he came up with which would allow us to sell gameplay-changing items for real money in a way which wouldn't break the EULA (and has been approved by Mojang).

    You also didn't see the insane amount of reports 0racle would deal with. He also did his fair share of IP checks, which some other SMods don't do. 0racle was by far the hardest working SMod on the team - the only person who even came close would've been @randomcitizen1. He was also the only SMod who was trying to make a change with the system and letting mods know about this. He allowed the raid JMods to help out with the server a lot, which wasn't something most SMods did (I was begging and pleading for months for HG's pre-game timer to be reduced and that still hasn't been done).

    That all being said, I suppose your constant irrational pessimism against the staff and the server shouldn't surprise me. Its not as if its anything new.
     
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  20. Ry23an

    Ry23an Orchard Thief

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    I never said anything about my ban, my ban is irrelevant to this (i was banned for macro grinding spiders -Not by oracle)
     
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