Wiki Team Members

I post I didn't fight for it though :V

 

This would be stupid. Specially since people like @SquishyCalvin actually give a very detailed response. Tbh with you, if it wasn't for Admiral's reply, I wouldn't be a staff member right now. Just because you don't see the positive outcome of them being able to reply to staff apps, doesn't mean others don't. Specially when most of the time, these players are able to give great feedback to newer/potential applicants.

 

You didn't have to apply for this.

 

No you should not be, because you did not apply to be semi-staff and you were not accepted as semi-staff.

This is both rude to Lord_Roke and a pointless comment to make because nothing in life is ever cut-and-dry.

Who said people can't post on staff apps because your opinions are worthless? I'd like some proof of this because my time on the staff team has shown me that staff cares very deeply about your opinions. I'd also like proof that "more than half of the wiki team members are immature". I've yet to see proof of this claim, so will continue to discount it as biased opinion. As for the last comment you made, wiki team members apply to be on the wiki team. They must be mature, active, and have good grammar in order to be accepted. As such, it can be assumed that our replies on staff applications will not be worthless and will actually discuss what needs to be discussed in a calm, effective, and mature manner.

This is completely understandable and, like chaos, munson, tchuck, and I have said multiple times on here, you aren't forced to respect us or even read our replies on applications. You do so of your own accord and that is on you, not us. I'm just here looking for viable proof that what we're doing is harmful, yet I've not seen anything that proves this claim.

 

Offtopic, but I'll bite. It's fine to have an opinion. It is not fine, however, to voice it in a negative, passive aggressive way and then say you have a right to do so. I'd actually like your response to some of the other points I made in that quote though, please.

 

Lol? I don't just moderate chat, when mods+ are busy, which is alot of the time, I am the one who deals with the hackers. When some people need help on TS, I may go. Depends on the current situation. Someone is getting repeatedly harassed by the same person, I stop it. JMods do more than just moderate chat. Also, "unless you're going for staff on WarZ." This is a big understatement, mostly because every gamemode has toxic players. That's something that is 100% supported by facts, just because you haven't been involved anywhere else other than WarZ doesn't mean that WarZ JMods do more than other server JMods. You're talking nonsense now, plus we're talking about Wiki staff team members, and other semi-staff ranks. No need to attack JMods, specially when some work hard to maintain their assigned servers clean.

 

If would be very helpful if @Lord_Roke could give his input, then lock this thread. I'll go along with whatever he says, regardless of the outcome for me.

 

I'm not saying it has to be positive either. I have a lot of negative opinions, but I don't attack the person I have an issue with (anymore. I was really foolish in the past). I truthfully just want to know why you believe wiki team members should not be allowed to post on staff applications. Have what we said been wrong, misleading, biased, or negatively affected a staff applications chances at becoming staff? I brought some good points to the table in my posts, but they've yet to be countered with proof.

 

There are semi-staff ranks, Roke said so himself.

 

Explination? What do I do?

We are staff but we do not have all of the perks.

 

Lifetime MVP don't have perms to perform a specific role for Brawl, therefore they don't "work" for Brawl and are not staff, unlike wiki/build/media team who are.

Perceived immaturity on behalf of a few wiki team members is not a reason to keep the entire wiki team from commenting.

I don't agree with giving wiki/build/media team the ability to post on staff apps while not giving the general community that option because of this ^^ it's true that some people on any of those teams won't give feedback as good or meaningful as people who aren't on the staff team - yet some of those people would give much better feedback. Players like Piky, ObamaTheReptile, and others come to mind

No one's forcing you to respect anyone.

 

Do you mean the applicants, or the wider community? If you mean the applicants, well they'd have to take it from either the staff or the semi-staff one way or another, and I think it's fair to say all of the respondents try their upmost to avoid being outright insulting when responding to a staff application, even when offering criticism. If you're referring to the wider community, then I think that's a simple case of having what someone else has for the sake of it. I also refer to my last post, where are you sure you want to be restricting more advice for yourself?

 

who cares..why does it matter

 

The ability to post on staff applications is a public way to constructively criticize an applicant. Literally anyone can PM or post on someone's profile page. If the purpose of constructive criticism is to let the applicant know what they should improve and in general to see what people think of them, then there is little to no difference between "public critiques" and profile posts or PMs. I don't think it matters, so why change it :|