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Kit Counter to each Kit

Discussion in 'Guides' started by HYYDRAS, Oct 13, 2017.

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  1. HYYDRAS

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    Hey Guys, its L1GHTNING or Hyydras here, and this is the thread where I will list each kit and its weaknesses and strengths. The listed kits that counter/effective against x will be in Bold Green and kits that are countered by y will be in Bold Red. (if you have experience on here, you can just read for fun. No need to take notes from this) Let me know if you think this kit counters that kit with proof, and I will gladly change it.
    I will not do all kits, as it is pretty obvious what the counters are for the kits that are not listed on here.

    Heavy-
    Ninja, Soldier, Medic, Assassin, Necromancer, Elf
    Assassin, Pyro, Engineer, Mage, Chemist.

    Soldier-
    Archer, Assassin, Ninja, Elf

    Assassin, Mage, Pyro, Engineer, Heavy

    Medic-
    Assassin, Pyro, Ninja, Elf
    Ninja, Assassin, Mage, Chemist, Engineer, Heavy, Dwarf

    Archer-

    Chemist, Assassin, Elf, Medic, Dwarf
    Ninja, Assassin, Mage, Heavy, Soldier, Engineer, Pyro

    Ninja-
    Medic, Chemist, Ninja, Assassin, Elf, Archer, Pyro, Mage
    Heavy, Soldier, Ninja, Engineer, Necromancer


    Assassin-
    Assassin, Heavy, Soldier, Mage, Medic, Archer, Necromancer, Ninja, Engineer, Pyro, Elf, Dwarf, Chemist
    Assassin, Heavy, Soldier, Mage, Medic, Archer, Necromancer, Ninja, Engineer, Elf, Dwarf, Chemist

    Chemist
    Medic, Engineer, Heavy, Necromancer, Assassin, Ninja, Elf
    Ninja, Assassin, Heavy, Engineer, Archer, Mage

    Engineer
    All Kits
    Engineer, Necromancer, Buffed Heavy

    Necromancer
    Engineer, Medic, Archer
    Engineer, Ninja, Assassin, Chemist, Mage

    Dwarf (Max Level)

    All Kits
    Assassin, Archer, Buffed Heavy

    Elf (note: I do not have Elf, so from my experience of going against Elf)

    Low-HP Ninja, Mage, Archer
    All Kits

    Pyro
    Heavy, Soldier, Archer, Necromancer
    Medic, Ninja, Assassin, Mage, Chemist, Engineer,

    Mage
    Mage, Pyro, Heavy, Soldier, Engineer, Necromancer, Elf,

    Elf, Ninja, Assassin, Pyro, Heavy



























    NOTE: A lot of the kits counter EACH OTHER. For example, x counters y, and y counters x.
     
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  2. Salty_Ivan

    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    A lot of 1v1s are situational, depending on the location of the players and the terrain. For example, Heavy counters Chemist in tight spaces but it's fair in the open.
    As well, CTF is a team based game, meaning 1v1s are, most of the time, insignificant.
     
  3. super_mii2

    super_mii2 Well-Known Member

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    Furthermore, the respawn rate and how fast a class can chase you is important. Ninja is probably the weakest class in the game, but when there are 2-3 of them with eggs, and ender pearling back to you once you die, it's no wonder their the premier recov class
     
  4. Spades_

    Spades_ Former CTF Mod

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    I believe elf has the ability to to "technically" counter every class. So if you feel like editing your list, you could add that in.
     
  5. TheZombieKat

    TheZombieKat CTFer since May 2012

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    I'd say Elf could counter every class if it's an insanely good Elf. Other than that, Elf dies to most classes.
     
  6. Salty_Ivan

    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    I play Elf on the side and it's not that much of a landslide except against heavy, necro, and good medics.
     
  7. Zycn

    Zycn Member

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    Great list, but keep in mind that the skill of a player also has an influence on the different counters.
     
  8. RenegadeSpinda0

    RenegadeSpinda0 Active Member

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    All kits

    Chemist is countered by elf’s pure element
     
  9. Salty_Ivan

    Salty_Ivan Well-Known Member

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    Stop reviving old threads, this is two years old...
    Chemist is not countered by elf's pure element simply because of how much healing they have. Once in a blue moon the Chemist will not react fast enough to heal before a third (assuming it actually hits) pure element shot.
     
  10. RenegadeSpinda0

    RenegadeSpinda0 Active Member

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    Yeah but then you could just hit again

    5 heal pots vs 16 regeneratable high damage arrows + bowspam
    I wonder who would win
    Also kinda hard to damage pot someone if it keeps getting reflected
    Not to mention, chemist needs to get pretty close to do damage, so wind element is a great tool. And if you’re in a pinch, you can just fly away and water element at your feet

    so I think that elf does counter chemist.

    Oh wait nvm you meant pure element sorry
     
  11. Cardonation

    Cardonation CTF JMOD | CMS Leader

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    Please don't gravedig old / outdated posts.
    Locked.
     
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