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the issue in brawl v2

Discussion in 'Discussion' started by Xion, Jan 31, 2018.

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Who should be demoted, you are able to choose all or several.

  1. Blamo

    41 vote(s)
    63.1%
  2. Aboves

    34 vote(s)
    52.3%
  3. Maryland/Tortugas

    21 vote(s)
    32.3%
  4. TheTitaniumTitan

    40 vote(s)
    61.5%
  5. Cuddled

    44 vote(s)
    67.7%
  6. wintergreen3

    19 vote(s)
    29.2%
  7. Snail_5_

    30 vote(s)
    46.2%
  8. Overkilll_

    26 vote(s)
    40.0%
  9. Doges

    23 vote(s)
    35.4%
  10. Trogs

    35 vote(s)
    53.8%
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  1. Fadaad8

    Fadaad8 Well-Known Member

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    Out of 4 of the only wild west mods, and 2 being jmod, there's chilled and Fuiji. I've heard chilled is becoming/moving to war. In my opinion I feel like we should wait this one out until the right person comes around. Also Fuiji is getting more into warz atm, not that I can necessary blame him with a 5 player base in Wild West and nothing to do.
     
  2. Xion

    Xion Well-Known Cheater

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    As much as I love waiting, the longer you wait, the more damage there is to fix.
     
  3. StrikerSly

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    - Trogs has proven to be abusive, he makes up rules and is inactive. He either needs to be demoted to mod or overall

    - cuddled needs a demotion and we definitely need a new staff manager to take her place immediately. the problem is the current candidates for that position arent active in all fields. Id say if you were to promote eil to admin, he would need to be a staff manager strictly and change his role to be active in all servers. he definitely should not oversee bans or do part of roke's job at all. i dont think hes fit for admin personally but if he were to be, he'd be staff manager imo

    - blamo snail are very inactive, yes, but there arent many suitable war applicants and if those two are demoted then we'd be left with two decently active mods (fista and toki) and one smod, which seems okay with the current player base but what if one of them were to be gone for a week or two? thats simply not enough mods on war, especially if theres an event. however any mod who stays in a private afk channel consistently needs a talking to. i almost got demoted once for being in a warz channel for 1 day straight.

    - jay definitely needs the smod promotion. im not sure what hes doing now but he seems comparable to how snax was as it is, and he really improved on his "biasness". I think he deserves a shot at warz smod since warz badly needs one. he seems pretty good with community relations as well so giving him perms for events isnt a bad idea

    - 3 of the staff you mentioned are part of warz, aboves, overkill and maryland. warz is the server that needs the most mods and honestly i couldnt care less if they only hop on for a few times a month, as its better than nothing.

    - i havent seen nmh ingame as i dont play but if he isnt playing with cheaters anymore and hes helping etc. then just accept the man. warz doesnt have a dedicated jmod to review chat.

    - give fuiji a shot
     
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  4. Xion

    Xion Well-Known Cheater

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    WarZ may need the most but it does not need players who don't help it often. I feel as if Jay/NMH would be able to handle WarZ on their own with the help of fuiji every now and then since he also plays. Thanks for the input dawg :wink:
     
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  5. Fadaad8

    Fadaad8 Well-Known Member

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    I think we all can agree that Eil should get admin, he's a very deticated player and is one if not the oldest current smod. He does seem to play in at least half of all gamemodes of brawl, such as wild west, warz, sometimes i see him on build working on some staff project probably (and he has spent a long time on it) and obviously raid.
     
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  6. Usp45

    Usp45 Well-Known Member

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    WHY IS IT SO COMPLICATED THE SERVER HAS 70 PLAYERS

    how will demoting inactive mods do anything to help the server lol
     
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  7. DaddyPurest

    DaddyPurest Ex-Party Mod

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    Because change takes time. And demoting inactive mods won’t do anything.
     
  8. scapezar

    scapezar Ex-Ban/Appeal Manager | Ex-Hack Test Manager

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    Lol yea my proof was my video recording - he could see the player through the ceiling as he was looking straight at him and responding to his sword blocks with his own sword blocking. I didn't know you guys were in a call and that you were jokingly hackusating, which in all honestly warrants a legitimate ban when you all were trying to get him banned. If you are trying to get banned for hacking, you shouldn't be so surprised when you do when it looks just the same as a real hacker. In the end, you're just wasting staff's time. (And yes, I unbanned him shortly after, although I still place the fault on your end.)

    Excuse my "butting" into other servers for wanting to have helped with as many reports and requests as I could when nobody else would/could. lmao

    And a large problem with things not getting done or being slow is due to the lack of developers.
    If CTF had a main, active dev, we'd be cranking in $$income and changes that need to be done. /shrug
    So putty's gotta start trusting more people (there's a few great ctf coders who would be willing to learn and even get paid minimally I'm sure)
    or to go on Craigslist or something pronto.
     
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  9. Champloo

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    Eil or Dasky for admin, more ww staff, Fuiji not smod though
     
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  10. Xion

    Xion Well-Known Cheater

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    I didn't blame you for attempting to help, I just blamed you for not knowing protocols while attempting to although your effort was still appreciated.

    Eil would be the best choice, wildwests playerbase is not the largest so the current staff team on it SHOULD be fine and would most likely just need 1-2 additions.

    Kind of stated how it would if you'd bother to read the thread tpaddy
     
  11. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    The reason I wouldn't demote more than those who I meantioned in my first post is because I'm on the side thinking "Brawl has so little staff anyway, and as long as they don't do anything wrong or go missing for a very long time, a demotion wouldn't be the best choice. Even if they are less active it still helps when they're online when they are."

    Yeah, it highers the chance of them being abusive or banning falsely but regardeles I'm on the side quoted above
     
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  12. Xion

    Xion Well-Known Cheater

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    Changes may take time but it should not take nearly as much time as brawl does. It's taken how many years for War 2.0 and how many years for WarZ 2.0 to STILL be developed? How long did it take for GreenPeas to be demoted even though half the community was talking about it? How long is it going to take for cuddled to be demoted? I'd hope it wouldn't take you guys around 6 months to figure out how to get rid of someones rank.
     
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    Xion Well-Known Cheater

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    Less staff = demand for staff = other applicants to be accepted who would most likely put in more hours than the current staff team.
     
  14. Lekosa1

    Lekosa1 mineman

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    No applicants /shrug (ye ik nmh and nick rn), there's maybe a good applicant every month or so and they aren't even assured to be accepted
     
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    Xion Well-Known Cheater

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    Yeah, yet their chances would be increased if all the deceased staff members weren't listed as staff.
     
  16. NickManEA

    NickManEA Build JMOD

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    I agree with most of the things stated but I don’t think we should demote wintergreen3. She has a normal activity in my opinion but I cannot be very sure as I don’t play enouh CTF.
    While Doges hasn’t got a good and even activity, I feel that his role is needed in the small Build staff team. It’s better to have him, even with a medium activity than losing him completely.
    About the others I think they should be warned about their inactivity and moved on to demotion if they resist to get active.


    As for the promotions, I can be confident about @GalaThundR, @Fuiji and @JAYGT for SMODs, but I am not really sure about @Eil for admin - I feel like it’s too early. Afterall I don’t have a concrete opinion about this one, Admin is a very high rank for me to have an opinion about.
    Surely, @NMHRODMAN1SBEST should be given a shot but @MoistMayonnaise as well. I am neutral about @SuperBen4.
    Nice to know your opinion and your feedback :wink:
    I agree about the try-hard part but I think I am just very enthusiastic and oversay/overdo things. Will sure try to settle that down. Thanks!
     
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  17. Xion

    Xion Well-Known Cheater

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    I just feel as if having a new fresh admin would be better for the community as it's been quite some time since the admin's have seen a new face and it gets a bit tiring due to roke having power over everyone. A lot of the inactive people I listed were off just off short notice and some of them may not be fully inactive which I apologize for.
     
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  18. Fuiji

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    It is a good thing roke has power over everyone :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  19. Xion

    Xion Well-Known Cheater

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    Power should be equal since roke could easily make multiple mistakes and get away with it due to him having power over everyone and no staff manager to do anything about it. Yes, roke is a decent staff member and does his job but I still dont think he should have power over most of the staff team considering his previous mistakes led to good staff members resigning.
     
  20. tallscot

    tallscot sceptiiiiiii

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    superben is a FAT negatory
     
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