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We can't find the Necro reworks

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by EmperorTrump45, Dec 18, 2018.

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  1. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    Really?

    Here are the ideas for Necro:
    1. https://www.brawl.com/threads/73365/
    2. https://www.brawl.com/threads/73285/
    3. https://www.brawl.com/threads/42049/
    4. https://www.brawl.com/threads/73749/
    5. https://www.brawl.com/threads/71837/
    6. https://www.brawl.com/threads/68823/
    7. https://www.brawl.com/threads/69139/
    8. https://www.brawl.com/threads/68747/
    9. https://www.brawl.com/threads/68336/
    10. https://www.brawl.com/threads/67017/
    11. https://www.brawl.com/threads/65540/
    12. https://www.brawl.com/threads/65631/
    13. https://www.brawl.com/threads/65527/
    14. https://www.brawl.com/threads/62386/
    15. https://www.brawl.com/threads/60590/
    16. https://www.brawl.com/threads/60694/
    17. https://www.brawl.com/threads/60302/
    18. https://www.brawl.com/threads/60322/
    19. https://www.brawl.com/threads/59385/
    20. https://www.brawl.com/threads/58932/
    21. https://www.brawl.com/threads/58862/
    22. https://www.brawl.com/threads/58125/
    23. https://www.brawl.com/threads/57116/
    24. https://www.brawl.com/threads/56731/
    25. https://www.brawl.com/threads/55460/
    26. https://www.brawl.com/threads/54478/
    27. https://www.brawl.com/threads/54774/
    28. https://www.brawl.com/threads/54337/
    29. https://www.brawl.com/threads/54012/
    30. https://www.brawl.com/threads/53483/
    31. https://www.brawl.com/threads/53114/
    32. https://www.brawl.com/threads/52899/
    33. https://www.brawl.com/threads/51845/
    34. https://www.brawl.com/threads/51119/
    35. https://www.brawl.com/threads/50383/
    36. https://www.brawl.com/threads/50031/
    37. https://www.brawl.com/threads/49612/
    38. https://www.brawl.com/threads/42223/
    39. https://www.brawl.com/threads/47320/
    40. https://www.brawl.com/threads/46780/
    41. https://www.brawl.com/threads/47712/
    42. https://www.brawl.com/threads/45096/
    43. https://www.brawl.com/threads/44649/
    44. https://www.brawl.com/threads/44545/
    45. https://www.brawl.com/threads/44538/
    46. https://www.brawl.com/threads/44192/
    47. https://www.brawl.com/threads/43694/
    48. https://www.brawl.com/threads/43328/
    49. https://www.brawl.com/threads/42860/
    50. https://www.brawl.com/threads/42637/
    51. https://www.brawl.com/threads/42643/
    52. https://www.brawl.com/threads/42653/
    53. https://www.brawl.com/threads/41533/
    54. https://www.brawl.com/threads/41537/
    55. https://www.brawl.com/threads/42027/
    56. https://www.brawl.com/threads/41389/
    57. https://www.brawl.com/threads/41646/
    58. https://www.brawl.com/threads/41024/
    59. https://www.brawl.com/threads/40468/ (idk why tf rhoske deleted his post but the rework can be viewed in a quote a few comments down)
    60. https://www.brawl.com/threads/41167/
    61. https://www.brawl.com/threads/40425/
    62. https://www.brawl.com/threads/72009/
    63. https://www.brawl.com/threads/72697/
    64. https://www.brawl.com/threads/70480/
    65. https://www.brawl.com/threads/70059/
    66. https://www.brawl.com/threads/68957/
    67. https://www.brawl.com/threads/63918/
    68. https://www.brawl.com/threads/60633/
    69. https://www.brawl.com/threads/59782/
    70. https://www.brawl.com/threads/58493/
    And here are the ideas for Engineer:
    1. https://www.brawl.com/threads/72589/
    2. https://www.brawl.com/threads/71652/
    3. https://www.brawl.com/threads/70618/
    4. https://www.brawl.com/threads/70473/
    5. https://www.brawl.com/threads/63956/ (this is a meme)
    6. https://www.brawl.com/threads/61539/
    7. https://www.brawl.com/threads/59995/
    8. https://www.brawl.com/threads/59490/
    9. https://www.brawl.com/threads/57883/
    10. https://www.brawl.com/threads/56058/
    11. https://www.brawl.com/threads/55465/
    12. https://www.brawl.com/threads/54485/
    13. https://www.brawl.com/threads/52753/
    14. https://www.brawl.com/threads/52150/
    15. https://www.brawl.com/threads/44590/
    16. https://www.brawl.com/threads/44106/
    17. https://www.brawl.com/threads/41911/
    some of the suggestions were posted in this section instead of ideas. Went back 55 pages until I stopped giving a f*ck

    Final Ideas Count:

    Necro - 70
    Engineer - 17 (16 excluding the meme)

    70 > 16

    necro rework when?
     
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  2. scapezar

    scapezar Ex-Ban/Appeal Manager | Ex-Hack Test Manager

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    so ur telling me this encyclopedia is FREE ?

    u giving out ez money lol
     
  3. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    70 posts, from the last 30,000 threads posted on the forums, some dating over 3 years back, many posted from old community members who just aren't around anymore.

    We're not looking for any old necro suggestions, we're looking for ones which are actually relevant, made by (and have feedback given by) people who are still around, and most of us don't have the free time to go through 55 pages of old ideas. That's the point of a focus thread, so I'm not too sure where the problem is here. If you have posted or seen any necro posts that are still relevant and you think would be any good, please post them there.

    In the last ~4,000 threads (or, last 15 months):
    Necro - 8
    Engineer - 4
     
  4. EmperorTrump45

    EmperorTrump45 Dank Memer

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    17 (16 excluding the meme) posts, from the last 30,000 threads posted on the forums

    (see I can do this too!)

    why are you comparing it to the total number of threads tho. If it's to illustrate the comparatively small number of Necro posts to the total posts that's pretty silly since you're comparing two different things. A better argument would be that Necro idea posts are only ~7% of the total CTF idea threads. And that's still a nonargument because no class has had more threads (idea or otherwise) posted about it than Necro - although I could be wrong (maybe Archer and Dwarf have more idk lul)

    Why does this matter?

    I didn't know ideas had an expiration date

    It took me like, an hour to go through (not 55) but 107 pages of ideas - in the general section and ideas. I'm sure I missed some since all I did was search "Necro" or "Engineer" in the title but that's probably a pretty good way to find "Necro" or "Engineer" reworks. I mean idk anyone's schedule but an hour isn't a crazy amount of "free time" lol

    the problem is Engineer is, at least, a functioning class (after its reworks) whereas Necro is not. at the same time that Necro has had a lot more suggestions for improving it over the same time period (4-5 years)

    Why do you care if they're old or not? If an idea is good, based on it's own merit, then isn't it worth looking at it?

    Webmant's old Necro rework comes to mind - so do all three of lasertagfighter's

    See the funny part about this is I posted a lot of the 'relevant' Necro posts - and I know that because I checked. But you're right, I could have been proactive and actually dm'd something beforehand instead of posting a bunch of sarcastic sh*t on the forums after the fact. Oh well

    Still more Necro threads than Engineer. also the forums have been dying or dead over that period so it's not really fair to limit what you're looking at to that time period /shrug
     
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  5. Champloo

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    bruh moment
     
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  6. CrystaliteRyuko

    CrystaliteRyuko Well-Known Member

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    I just think the fact that Necro HAD to be changed shows a flaw in the design for the class already. The fact it STILL is up for concern & change means along with the core problems it seemingly brought over with the rework, there are now more. What Necro needs is a complete revert to where it was utterly busted until change can be made, or a complete overhaul removing anything/everything from the original Necro, and becoming a completely different class.

    Of course though, I have no idea what new Necro does, I'm just assuming it's related to the old
    UwU
     
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