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Idea Class Concept -- Warrior

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by TWC123, May 29, 2015.

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  1. TWC123

    TWC123 Active Member

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    Class Idea -- Warrior (Free)

    Class Role

    This class is defensive tanky class.

    Starting Items

    -Iron Sword
    -x2 Steak
    -Gun Powder (renamed -- Enchanting Cry)
    -Bone (renamed -- Shield Of Bone)

    -Iron Helmet (Protection II)
    -Diamond Chestplate
    -Diamond Leggings
    -Iron Boots (Protection II)

    Explanations

    Passive Abilities

    • When an insta-kill class is near (20 blocks) it will tell the Warrior in the chat.
      • "Assassin is 20 blocks away" "Assassin is 13 blocks away" And so on, it will do the same with pyro.
      • Except for archer which will double the distance of the tracking (40 blocks).
    • When the Warrior is not fighting he/she has jump boost II and no fall damage when jumping.

    • When holding flag he/she looses jump boost II and gets jump boost I. Regains jump boost II when captures flag or drops it or dies.
    Active Abilities

    Enchanting Cry is simple, right click and all teammates within 5 block radius and Warrior's weapon get sharpness I and fire aspect I for 6 seconds. Cooldown is 30 seconds.

    Shield Of Bone when held the Warrior deflects all ranged shots (He/she can still move) it doesn't bounce back (I created the Shield for Elf so don't comment about me copying my own idea). Cooldown is 20 seconds it lasts for 5 seconds and it turns to bone meal and when the cooldown finishes it will turn back to a bone.
     
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  2. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    Instead of making 20 threads for each kit, how about you put all of the kits in a single thread?

    Also, what do you mean by "insta kill class"?
     
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    #2 SoMuchWinning, May 29, 2015
  3. TWC123

    TWC123 Active Member

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    Insta-kill classes are Pyro, Archer and assassin. They have abilities which can kill any player instantly depending on the ability. @MessageForHelp
     
    #3 TWC123, May 29, 2015
  4. SoMuchWinning

    SoMuchWinning Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for clarifying it.

    Also, is this going to be a free or a paid kit? It seems rather strong for me.
     
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  5. TWC123

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  6. Lujiu

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    I dont think this should be class. way to strong and its abilities dont really fit in with ctf.
     
    #6 Lujiu, May 29, 2015
  7. TWC123

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    @Lujiu Its a class idea and how does engineer or necro fit in with CTF?
     
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  8. Lujiu

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    Engineer and necro both bring unique gaming experiences to Ctf that allow for new tactics in the gameplay. None of these ideas are unique classes to me and dont seem thought out enough.
     
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  10. obikenobi21

    obikenobi21 Delta Force Jedi

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    This is pretty useless and way too specialized. There are many other classes that do it's job better, for example heavy and dwarf. Also, having an effect when you carry the class is kind of stupid usually, and only serves to limit the role the class can take, like you attempt to do here. It's best to let the class do whatever with all it's abilities in any given situation.
     
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    #10 obikenobi21, May 29, 2015
  11. Lujiu

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    "A ton of feedback" doesn't mean good feedback.
     
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  12. TWC123

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    Its pointless arguing with you @Lujiu as all you are doing is posting your negative thoughts. This is feedback.
     
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  13. Lujiu

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    All I said was "I dont think this should be class. way to strong and its abilities dont really fit in with ctf."
    and then you start a private conversation complaining how I was the only person to have disagreed with your idea so far and that I needed to stop. Now your saying that all my comments have been negative?! seriously. The only thing im being negative about is your rejection to accept someone with a different opinion.
     
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  14. TWC123

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    No I am complaining about you writing no constructive criticism and only having negative thoughts.
     
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    My constructive criticism was that I didn't think it should be a ctf class because its abilities dont really fit in with ctf.
     
    #15 Lujiu, May 29, 2015
  16. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Due to its high mobility, I feel as if this is a recovery class too. It has a ton of armour, too, so it would also work as a tanking class. I don't think that a class should be a able to recover and tank at the same time.

    As for the abilities:

    • Instakill warnings:
      • This could work in another class idea that aims to fulfil another role, although a defensive class isn't really under threat of a lot of instakills. Maybe if it was more of an offensive class, this could be a nice addition - if this were added to heavy, for example, I'd find it very useful.
    • Potion effects:
      • I don't like potion effects in classes as basic as speed and slowness. Jump boost is interesting and can be used strategically, so ignore this for now - but speed and slowness is boring. Speed doesn't really allow any tactics, all there is to it is you can move a bit faster. Speed II is too much for a tank-y defence class, as well.
    • Enchanting cry:
      • Very OP, and could be exploited. Could I have 4 Warriors in 1 team, and constantly give my whole team sharpness II? Maybe giving every teammate within 15 blocks or so more damage output for x seconds would be good, but the whole team is just too much. Also, long cooldowns don't fit in with the fast-paced gameplay, in my opinion.
    • Shield of bone:
      • Isn't this almost exactly the same as one of Elf's abilities?

    Also, @Lujiu, @TWC123, please stop arguing >.>

    The only thing I agree with in all of your argument is this:

     
    #16 SoCool21, May 29, 2015
  17. lasertagfighter

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    A little too op tbo. I mean it has more protection than the heavy, and it can run as fast as the ninja o-o. I love the abilities though, and it is very interesting as well. I recommend to lower the armor at least, with the enchantment on his/her armor is like 11 armor points, the heaviest class in CTF with abilities... 5/10
     
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  18. AriesRam10

    AriesRam10 Old MCPVP'er

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    Oh god.. Ok, here I go.

    I think thats more armor then Heavy first off with the prot. The insta-kill warning is cool I guess.. Speed 2, Jump 2, and no fall... What. Seems like a flying heavy too me, when you hit it, it gose away. Seems kinda just thrown on there with no reason. Slowness 1 with that flag. Oh gee, what are you supposed to do in CAPTURE THE FLAG?

    The active ability's seem pretty thrown together as well. They dont fit the class, they seem like there put there just to make it seem cooler. Enchanting Cry, OP AF, team with Le Pairo and GG. Sharp 2 on an iron sword.. Have a Chem throw some STR and your one-shotting. 1 minet cool-down, yuck.. Shield of Bone, Elf dose that.. Why add that? So it can piss Archers off? It has no use IMO.

    Over all I dont think it has any use but to recov, we need a free recov class, but this is not a recov class.

    P.S. Im not n favor of any new classes (we just got Elf), you said it yourself, what do Engineer and Necro do? Why are you trying to add more broken stuff when theres already broken stuff that needs fixing.

    P.S.S. Your ideas are complicated, and dont seem to have any purpass.

    P.S.S.S. Active abilities dont fit the feel of CTF.
     
    #18 AriesRam10, May 30, 2015
  19. TWC123

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    @SoCool So what you are saying is, that I should do a heavy rework and add the Insta-Kill Warning? I understand your reasons for the speed, but I have to say the jump has to be equal with the speed or it ruins the sprinting. Now if you remember I created the idea of the Shield for Elf and so yes its like it as I used it for two of my many class ideas. Now the Enchanting Cry hmm I know what you mean so are you saying I should lower the enchantments or the lengths of both cooldown and the time it lasts?

    @AriesRam10 Ok half of the things you said SoCool has said so look up and answer ^^^. I created the shield so I liked it in my elf class idea so I put it in my Warrior one.

    @Jon_craft11 well?
     
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  20. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    Not so much that, although it'd be cool to see Heavy get reworked with this as insta-kills are a massive hard counter to Heavy.

    Both.
     
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