Idea [Class Idea] Archer rework

-1 I know everyone says archer is too overpowered or broken and im a heavy and chemist main which are probably the easiest classes to hs or kill as archer (chemist) but I still think we need the broken archer to counter soldier cappers standing on high ground or heavies that just camp in water which pyro isn't able to kill.

 

One of my biggest problems with archer's headshot is that it is a hard line: at 29 blocks its a bit of damage, at 30 an instakill. I think it would be nicer (and more fair tbh) to have archer deal a couple of hearts of pure damage starting at like 20 blocks and increasing to an instakill at like 40 blocks. Archer can still instakill, but more often just deals 3-4 hearts of damage which is far less rage-inducing. Most archer reworks I've seen involve reducing arrows or stopping bowspam, but (at least in my experience) the most annoying thing about archer is kills out of nowhere. Making the instakill harder but still giving archer ranged utility would go a long way towards balancing the class.

(Note: as an archer main I'm kinda biased, so take this w/a grain of salt)

 

No

 

Toxic

 

What is your purpose in removing punch exactly?
-Slayway
Chicken.

 

To make Archer a lot less of a nuisance to fight at short range. It dominates long range. It should not be difficult to kill - or get close enough to kill - at short range

 

Yeah but why does punch work well with that tho. I get that you get less knockback but the main thing archers do in close ranged is bowspam and that is based on the arrows knock up ability not the knock back. This is the mistake several servers made by removing punch and still wondering why bowsaw works.
Beside that we should just wait for the shield item that mojang created for this close-ranged situation.
-Slayway
I like chicken

 

It knocks you back an additional 4 blocks giving Archer time to hit aim and hit you again and again sometimes knocking you back into headshot range, over a ledge, or into water/lava/soulsand (depends on where you are, the map, etc.). I mean, if you get knocked into water - as most classes - you're borderline screwed

The punch greatly enhances the knockback from bowspam, as mentioned above ^^. It makes it much harder for anyone who isn't Mage to get in melee range (3-4 blocks) entirely for that reason

 

Yet doesn't affect bowspam itself too much.
Who else likes chicken?
-Slayway

 

Only rework i think archer would need is this: blocking reduces instakill to 9 hearts of true damage or something....

 

What about:
-Headshot range 35
-Regeneration system of @SoCool21
-Every shot getting closer to 35+ does more damage till instakill at 35+
-Remove punch 1
-add self boosting(arrow) to escape melee fights

-Slayway

 

I COMPLETELY AGREE. I've been running around the concept of removing punch from archer bows, although it seems making archers having to pull there bow all the way back, is a bit "timey," for example, if you have a ninja that's invisible and about to attack you can't do the usual thing and corner yourself and shoot arrows all around you, or something like that. So possibly instead of having to fully charger your bow, it has to be at least half charged.

 

If I had a dollar for everytime I've seen an archer change topic where there has been no change to the instakill after the topics(besides the range increased). I would have enough money to buy the server I swear