If a woman is caused a miscarriage by other men, but no harm to her, against her will, they are to be fined. However, if they were to harm the women, they shall be punished life for life, eye for eye, etc. Because the ending of a fetus does not result in punishment by life for life and eye for eye, it suggests that a fetus was not considered a life.
Also, the notion of "what could have been" with the birth of a fetus is speculative, foolish, selfish, and ultimately, stupid. Most women who have abortions do not have them "just because." They do it because they won't be able to care for the child, will struggle, are not ready to a bear a child, or will not care for the child. To force the birth of child to such a mother is to doom the child to an awful existence.
It is speculative that aborted fetuses "could have" done something great, such as cure cancer or invent something spectacular. A child born to an unwanting mother is not likely to achieve anything. A child born to unwanting surroundings is not likely to achieve anything if they survive. Besides, motion through time is irreversible (as opposed to space; motion through space is reversible).
The traveling of matter through time is its being in a constant state of change. As time passes, all matter eventually changes upon all levels (subatomic, molecular, etc.). The changes it goes through due to the time are irreversible. Time is not to be taught of as a wave (time) washing upon hidden rocks (events) that exist independent of the development of time.
Because the future does not exist until we are present within it, there is no "what could have been." There is only "what was," "what is," and "what will be." There is no room for "what could have been" since its very existence is an impossibility.
We can predict and influence what the future will be, however, we cannot change what the future is when we reach it. We cannot reverse it; it is what it has become.
Anyways, if there are no objections or responses to my thoughts on abortion, I will move on to the discussion of the minimum wage, Socialism, and Capitalism so as to contribute to the conversation that @Sir_Inge and @Admiral_Munson were having.
Leviticus 27:6 does not mean that God does not value children. According to the Bible 1. Humans are created in God’s image. Genesis 1:27 2. Humans are formed by God in the womb. 3. God also knows individual humans before they were even born. Therefore, he considers humans human, even before birth. It’s impossible to claim that God does not value humans. Jeremiah 1:5
The interpretation you gave of Numbers 3:15-16 is wrong viewed in light of the previous evidence.
I don’t know what translation of the Bible you used for the verses in Exodus.
The NKJV reads, “22 “If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman’s husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 But if any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.”
This Hebrew word here does not denote a dead fetus. Seeing that God knows humans before they are born, the baby here is treated as a human. Should the fetus die, the penalty would have been death. https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/786-does-exodus-21-sanction-abortion
As for all the science-ish stuff you posted, I don’t want to take the time to read and research all that like I did with your biblical stuff.
For all I know, the sciency stuff could be true. :V That being said, I knew for sure that the Bible could not sanction abortion. Why would the religious people continue to believe what they do if it did?
Anyways, I'm so tired of seeing controversial crap here. I'm just so done. Please, let's take it elsewhere and let this be a happy post again. It just feels so toxic now. ;-;
Jesus Christ just bring back capital punishment for murderers. They deserve to lose the life that took someone else's. Our tax money is going to prisons to hold these people - what is the point! The ****ty mental health system combined with the gun laws in America create havoc. Honestly, just fix one of the problems and the other should work out.
Gun control? What are guns? Australians, are only allowed bolt-action weapons besides the Police. Plus, you must do aome complicated stuff to get a gun license for it. That is why Australia has 7-20 gun deaths per year. I glimpsed at the American gun deaths but "no comment".
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