The Mysterious Majority of the Community

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I find it strange that you didn't tag me in a post that so clearly just resonates 'BAWSS fodder'

I'm pretty sure the majority of ctf'ers would agree with me when I say that you're clearly Bawssist.
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On a more serious note, I f*cking love you for putting this out into the community. It's easy to claim the majority of players without proof, but it's not so easy to prove it.

 

We refer to the majority of the community when we get ver 60% of people wanting something in a well done poll with a straight forward discussion. This poll is often informal but in the case of wool, it was formal. Due to this, an argument for banners because there is no defined majority cannot be made. If you say "well, the players who didn't vote want banners," then you need evidence of that, which would be gathered by doing a poll, therefore having them vote and rendering your argument entirely useless. Essentially, the majority of the community is represented by those who can vote in a poll, either informal or formal.

 

On a thread less than half of the playerbase frequents, sure.

 

You cannot draw conclusions about the non voters based on assumptions. You must say that those who do not vote either do not care or have no opinion until they state otherwise. Therefore, because most people who have an opinion want wool, wool is the way to go.

 

Ironically, you cannot draw any conclusions either, as you did when you stated that %60 percent of people preferred wool in a formal vote, and as I did NOT when I pointed out the error within your sample size in determining something like a majority.

I never made the claim that the people who did not vote would tip the scales, I just pointed out that your 60% did not include such factors.

Edit: I can also understand that a poll would necessairly not cover these people, that's obvious. But you've got to say that at least %60 of people polled said "_____".

 

The majority of people quoted in this thread disagree with @Admiral_Sp00kson.

 

The majority of BAWSS5's polled, (60% out of a sample size of 1 [university of ctf study, conducted by BAWSS5, 2015]) said that BAWSS5 should argue this topic.

 

Mea culpa, the majority of the community with an opinion that cares to vote. If one does not care to vote or otherwise state their opinion, then obviously one's opinion is invalid, therefore making the only valid opinions those of the voting community.

 

Or those who are ignorant of the vote that was taking place due to an absolute lack of information.

It's not like your vote was advertized across all the servers, and the playercount that the vote missed was significant enough to have a possible change on the outcome.

When you assume that a playerbase like CTF's is unopinionated or doesn't care, you are missing a large portion of community. Maybe not a majority, maybe not enough to durastivally change the polls. Besides, this isn't a gallup poll or anything, where you can assume people know about the poll.

Also CTF'ers who are on the forums are stubborn as sh*t, but what else is new?

(for the record I'm playing devil's advocate here as debate practice. While I disagree with your interpretation I can't deny your outcome, nor do I really care about the discussion being had because I know the whole thing's pointless anyways. So, yeah.)

 

The 50% of American voters who don't vote have 0 say in how the country is run, and therefore if the only people are voting are salty forumers, yes, they should have a large influence over the server. If you don't like it, say something.

 

Apples to oranges. Everyone in america knows how and where to vote because it's advertized for 4 years running, and therefore your statement is correct in that sense. Ctf doesn't have that.

 

He did. You got salty over it.

 

A poll with a sample size that is greater than 20 people and is representative of greater than 1/10 of the community's population is accurate IMO. Considering there were about 100 votes and there are about 500-1000 regular CTFers, this is accurate.

 

"Majority" without statistics is a baseless term affected by ones own bias. To proclaim a majority without any proof shouldnt be considered a respectable point.

 

The you was a general you, not one directed at anyone.

 

I read like... half of that and well, I like.