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Effects/Results of the MCPVP Merge [CTF Edition]

Discussion in 'Capture the Flag' started by BlueGuyARed, Dec 21, 2015.

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  1. The_Sky_Emperor

    The_Sky_Emperor Active Member

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    A few notes,
    [*]do /flagdisplay to cage whether the giant a** flag alerts appear and to change where they appear...
    [*]this is pretty much a perfect description of CTF. And the Brawl CTF I do believe is semi-corrupt and needs to be fixed in order for it to be liked more by players
     
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  2. BlueGuyARed

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    I was counting map changes & this as updates - separately from gameplay changes.
     
  3. November

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    man im getting tired of seeing this. i wanna make this clear to people like u and @Sir_Inge that it is not the banners that cause u issues when capping. it's the fence post that is the reason u cant block/heal/enderpearl, etc. if u want proof then ill make a video showing it or u can just go in game urself and see. the only thing that banners do that may detriment the game is a slight obscurity in ur vision when ur in reverse f5
     
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  4. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    And remove your helmet. But you're absolutely right. There is the occasional pickup issue with banners according to @kevshadowslayer (I believe) but aside from that they just look ugly and obscure view in addition to removing helmets. I've taken care of the obscured view with my track and the ugly look, so overall they're not atrocious.
     
  5. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I haven't had any problems with blocking or healing, and I can still enderpearl but half the time I enderpearl into the banner (the enderpearl is at least 2-2.5 blocks away from the ground so it couldn't hit the fencepost unless its bugged). Even if it is the flagpost, it still makes Brawl's CTF worse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  6. Sir_Inge

    Sir_Inge Well-Known Member

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    Actually, the bigger problem I have with capping is that when there's another ninja in the flag room you can hit them with your pearl and it doesn't p[ass through, which troubles me. Also, I don't think elf should be able to block friendly pearls.
     
  7. _Enderfire1602

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    I preferred mcpvp. lag.
    Enough said.
     
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  8. TomD53

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    The biggest issues for me is lag and dem brawl randy assassins that think they're all good when they kill you. When you were blocking. There have been several occasions where I have been assassin, walked up to people and assassinated them while they were blocking. I had the flag once, and my teammates saw me turn around and block. I was still assassinated.

    ^ just to mention, this was not my internet/connection to brawl because my teammates saw me turn around, and the block/packet whatever must've been sent to the server in order for them to see. This therefore shows that it's the lag on brawl that's making the game literally unplayable. It's even worse if you're from AU/EU
     
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  9. Blackfurrykitty

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    All of these reasons only reinforce my position on why im withdrawing from mainstream ctf. Honestly at least with sanctioned team matches a piece of what i prided in mcpvp's set up still remains. Good quality games minus alot of issues with brawl players and mods. At least there i can actually be myself instead of not having to constantly trip over if im making a very slight infraction on the rules.

    Actually that is another issue I wanna point out in terms of how the merge affected life here. Brawl's community and CTF's community seem to be incompatible and hostile towards one another. Its not a case of people being just simply misunderstanding of one another, It's a case of both sides not wanting to integrate at all and are resisting the process at every turn. Both sides are constantly insulting each other (its toned down some but the hostlity still exists), Both sides target each other and make every attempt to drive one another out of the community, Both sides hate each other with such a burning passion people actually put effort into trying to tick the others off. If things keep going like it is I don't ever expect ctf to improve in both gameplay or in how inviting the community is x3. I will say though some sides have successfully crossed the line of integration and the results are starting to show. But it seems like a significant portion still doesn't want anything to do with the other.
     
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  10. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    So true

    I used to be able to have fun in chat on McPvP, but now whenever I have fun it breaks some BS rule which does no harm at all.
     
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  11. TheShadowStalker

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    And the chat filter is stupid in all forms of the word. This isnt a server meant for 6 year old guys, but yes, I do agree when there is too much cussing that there should be temp mutes and such, but a filter? really?

    I just love how this paragraph explains how i wasnt the most toxic, worse person in ctf, etc. I mean, i was pretty bad, but yea, not the only one; also black, I completely agree with you, the egos of the mcpvpers clash with the egos of the brawlers, and honestly, mcpvpers have better skill and better egos.
     
  12. iMuffles

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    Yeah, if I see an assassin coming towards me and I don't have like 3 seconds to block, I just don't try.
     
  13. Xelasi

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    [​IMG]

    ... I think Brawl is doing a pretty decent job with the community. +1 on minimal mass resignations.
     
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  14. SoCool21

    SoCool21 Bans Reports & Appeals Admin | McPvPer for Life <3

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    I honestly think hclewk killed McPvP on purpose. He got DDoSed all the time and got swatted twice, and all that for a server when you have a wife and kids isn't really worth it.

    Even so, Brawl's never been the biggest server of their time before.
     
  15. KirbysDreamLand

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    Mcpvp was so much better because wool was so much better.
     
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  16. Risabu

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    Isn't he starting a new server now or something
     
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  17. iMuffles

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    yea its some roleplaying thing innit?
     
  18. EmperorTrump45

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    "Both sides are constantly insulting each other"
    "Brawl's Community and CTF's community seem to be incompatible and hostile to one another"
    "If things keep going like it is I don't ever expect CTF to improve both gameplay or how inviting the community is"

    I'm so confused.

    What are these 'both sides'? Brawl isn't like North and South. No one's screaming at someone else to get off their lawn, aside from my grandpa and a couple flameboys. Segregation is over. Wait, no it never existed in CTF on McPVP or Brawl. In fact, it has been pretty easy for me to get along with most of the original Brawlers that I've talked too and played with. Furthermore, as someone who spends a LOT of time in the CTF forums and on Discord I have seen very little flame in most threads/chats and even when there is flame it is usually a few knuckleheads who are perpetrating it. Mostly, what goes on between the 'McPVP'ers' and the 'Brawlers' - that is if we are now dividing the Brawl community in two (which is stupid since we are all technically Brawlers ) - is harmless banter to those who do not take everything seriously.

    However, one thing that would definitely improve how inviting the community is would be less of posts like yours, which are ridiculously and needlessly divisive as they identify a problem that does not exist. Fact is, we are (mostly) teenagers playing a block game involving the capturing of pixelated flags. There is no need to make a federal case of it by acting like CTF'ers are not going to get along with Brawlers just because the CTF community is very close knit compared to other gaming communities. This is a community, not a fraternity.
     
  19. Blackfurrykitty

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    Im calling it exactly has i saw it. I haven't tried yet to make a federal case out of this so please don't say it's something that its not. I haven't been playing NEARLY as much in the last few months as what i did before when the server first switched. I saw a ton of fighting between both parties and i wasn't around for the integration process. Or at least enough to notice the change happening. From what I saw it was a deeply divided community at the time and it was mostly mcpvpers putting the hate on. *shrugs*
     
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  20. mh__

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    Ctf has always been divided from its counterparts from when it was hg to now when it's basically all of brawl. When talking about the cons of brawl everyone seems to focus only on the bad things and then cherish everything from mcpvp and just mindlessly see it as the "glory days".
    • Mcpvp lagged a ton probably worse than brawl imo a lot of matches were completely based off lag where the only lag I see now (besides my terrible Internet) is on free friday.
    • In mcpvp, CTF was very secluded from the other communities (hg mostly) and tensions were high and there was even a bit of a forum war. With brawl I can see the seclusion but I haven't seem any hate or flame.
    • People complained about getting no changes until towards the end of mcpvp when nom stepped in.
    • And of course with anything that's probably ever existed people cherish the past more than the present and your memories stick with the good things for the most part and in the present you focus on the bad.
    Oh and don't you remember instacaps when most maps would end within a minute that was fun. Good times.
     
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